The Dixie Chicks naked

[Munchkin03]

Originally posted by dzandiloo
their C&W audience is just too conservative to handle women who are not sheep.

I actually agree with this.

I couldn't care less about the comments, but I believe that the cover will further alienate the people who were boycotting, threatening family members, etc. A lot of these people are "God/Mom/Apple Pie", and nekkid 'girls' on the cover of one of them Hollywood magazines ain't gonna sit well with Uncle Bubba and Aunt Suzie Mae.

The very fact that there are people hiding behind the American flag while threatening people who voice (unpopular) opinions makes ME ashamed to be an American. Boycotting a book/record is another thing. Making the person who produced that scared to walk around without protection.

Originally posted by Munchkin03
I actually agree with this.

I couldn't care less about the comments, but I believe that the cover will further alienate the people who were boycotting, threatening family members, etc. A lot of these people are "God/Mom/Apple Pie", and nekkid 'girls' on the cover of one of them Hollywood magazines ain't gonna sit well with Uncle Bubba and Aunt Suzie Mae.

The very fact that there are people hiding behind the American flag while threatening people who voice (unpopular) opinions makes ME ashamed to be an American. Boycotting a book/record is another thing. Making the person who produced that scared to walk around without protection.

You know what?

I'm sick of all of the bashing that conservatives take on this issue. Yes, i'm a conservative, i voted for Bush, i will vote for him again, i don't like the Dixie Chicks, and i don't buy their music.

BUT, i am NOT Uncle Bubba and Aunt Suzie Mae. Being conservative is not a solely southern thing. My uncle is very active in the Republican party of LONG ISLAND! (YES, even YANKEES can be conservative.)

Once again, liberals resort to name-calling and mud-slinging when their arguments have no point. They disagree with the war in Iraq, but instead of offering solutions to disarm Saddam, they call Bush "hitler", a dictator, among other vulgarities. They don't agree with the backlash against the Dixie Chicks or the ardent patriotism of Charlie Daniels and so we BOYCOTTERS are now unAmerican?? What the hell is that argument? I guess when MLK proposed the boycotts of the busses in Alabama, that was unAmerican and disgraceful too, huh?

Also, it's not "Emily's husband" it's Charlie Robinson. And if y'all want to experice Texas music, the way country was MEANT to be played,(not that wannabe pop drivel in Nashville) check him out.

Lastly,
I am an American. If so-called celebrities say things that i don't disagree with i am totally in my right not to further support them. If my bank came out and said they support Iraq, i would close my checking account. Likewise, i don't support Hanoi Jane, BABS Striesand, Martin Sheen, Alec Baldwin, the Dixie Chicks, and anyone else who's opinions i don't share. That's not unAmerican, that's me spending my MONEY how i WANT TO. It's called capitalism, look into it.

/end rant

Kitso
KS 361 dixie chicks songs i'm gonna download, burn onto CD's and then sell on the black market to steal money from them

[damasa]

In any event, I feel that the Dixie Chicks should get unnekkid, and fast!

[Rudey]

Originally posted by Cloud9
Yeah, it's really disturbing that someone's music can be banned just because they decided to be honest about their feelings. It's almost reminiscent of the book burnings in Nazi Germany. Our country is really stupid sometimes man.

I'm going to add this to the list of comments you make that are just plain ignorant and start ripping on you. How were they banned??? How does this even compare with Nazi Germany and book burnings? Do you even realize how offensive your remark about Nazi Germany is to someone who is Jewish?? Why are you so ignorant? I'm going to jump down your throat for being ignorant and insensitive.

Our country is not stupid - just idiots who make certain remarks are.

-Rudey
--We have the freedom to listen to whatever music we enjoy. If we don't enjoy the views behind an artist, we are free to not listen to their music.

[damasa]

Originally posted by Rudey


Our country is not stupid - just idiots who make certain remarks are.

-Rudey
--We have the freedom to listen to whatever music we enjoy. If we don't enjoy the views behind an artist, we are free to not listen to their music.

Rudey rules

/end game

[dzandiloo]

Kitso-
Settle down, now! I don't agree with Cloud9's Nazi comparison, but otherwise, we were having a civilized conversation about a hot topic. When I said "their C&W audience is too conservative..." I meant that by DEFINITION (as in the dictionary definition of the word: traditional or restrained) their fans are conservative...not that their fans are Conservatives (although I guess many of them are). Is that conservative bashing? You've probably already figured out I'm one of the 42 liberal people in Texas, but I support the war. I can do that, you know? And yet, I am not offended by Natalie's expression of opinion. That's one of the things that makes America great.

I can't speak for Munchkin, but I took her "Susie Mae" comment to be more a comment of the stereotype of country music fans-not liberal name calling...(let's say stereotypical Nashville country music fans, if that makes it less offensive, since you seem to dislike all things Nashville country music). Maybe I interpreted teh comment wrong.

Sorry I failed to point out to the less knowledgeable that Emily's husband is in fact Charlie Robinson, who happens to be a terrific Texas musician. That was not really my point . My point was that I wondered, after hearing his comments, how long the group was going to remain together because surely if the husband of one of the band members is being vocal about it, there must be some dissention in the ranks. I honestly would not be surprised if they pack it in after the tour is over & go their very separate ways.

I personally don't think you (or the boycotters) are un-American. You have a right to your opinion and so do we. My problem is not with the boycotters...I'm just disappointed in the way some people have reacted in what I view to be uncivilized ways--i.e. physical threats to the band members (I have an old high school friend who was playing for them while they were on tour in Europe--he totally disagreed with her comments, and yet he felt threatened upon their return), verbal assaults against her family (her grandmother is a volunteer at a local hospital, and people have been verbally assaulting her at work for heaven's sake!), etc. What is that all about?

I agree--capitalism is king. Vote with your wallet, that's everyone's right & something I'm glad I can do if I choose to. I also guess people like the aforementioned name-callers have a right to act like buffoons, but I have a right to be disappointed that any American would behave that way.

[Munchkin03]

Originally posted by AggieSigmaNu361
BUT, i am NOT Uncle Bubba and Aunt Suzie Mae. Being conservative is not a solely southern thing. My uncle is very active in the Republican party of LONG ISLAND! (YES, even YANKEES can be conservative.)

Once again, liberals resort to name-calling and mud-slinging when their arguments have no point.

Whoa, calm down there, Tiger.

I'm fron the South. Therefore, I feel I can poke goodhearted fun at MY Uncle Bubba and Aunt Suzie Mae, representative of the sort of people I imagine are making a huge deal about this Dixie Chicks stuff and who will be the most alienated by the cover, without being called a mudslinging liberal. If you can't poke fun at yourself, who can you make fun of?

Plus, I failed to mention either Republicans or Democrats--I am politically enlightened enough to understand that Democrats can be very conservative and Republicans can be socially liberal. Besides, it was a discussion about SOCIAL conservatives, not POLITICAL conservatives.

There is a difference between boycotting the Montgomery city buses because of discrimination and not buying Dixie Chicks CDs because you don't agree with their political stance. I cannot even believe that you even COMPARED the two.

Nobody said that boycotting was unAmerican--at least I didn't. There is something inherently undemocratic about threatening to physically attack someone who says something you do not believe in. Capitalism is one thing; threats bordering on terrorism because someone says something you don't agree with is another.

Anyway...take a few deep breaths, have a cup of tea, and reread my first post, and then this one. You may realize that my post was not spewing with vitriol; simply, it was an observation of my own culture.

[swissmiss04]

Sure vote with your wallet. That's our freedom (unless some more bullsh*t gets passed and we lose that, too) and I heartily endorse it. But hell, don't get all bent out of shape and threaten the well being of Maines' family because she spouted off. Her family is not responsible for what she said. Heck if her own bandmates (who were right there) couldn't control it how could her family across the pond control it? Personally, I like their music and I continue to listen to it even after what was said. My opinion? I think it's perfectly ok that she thinks that, but I wish she hadn't said it at such a "hot" time. Or maybe not targeted the President personally, and just said something like "While we don't support the war, God bless the soldiers" or something. And then played "Travellin' Soldier" Damn, I should be a publicist

[starang21]

Originally posted by Cloud9
It's almost reminiscent of the book burnings in Nazi Germany. Our country is really stupid sometimes man.

that is putting it VERY lightly.

[moe.ron]

i hate to see how many people feel if rage against the machine are still around. BTW, Pearl Jam did something even more "contrversial" and u know what, most people wouldn't care less. Is it maybe the music they're playing or maybe they were males? And their shows have been getting rave review, and I have their new album and, beside ten, has to be their best work.

On a side now, any female that can play the mandolin is fine in my book.

Originally posted by Munchkin03
There is a difference between boycotting the Montgomery city buses because of discrimination and not buying Dixie Chicks CDs because you don't agree with their political stance. I cannot even believe that you even COMPARED the two.

Nobody said that boycotting was unAmerican--at least I didn't. There is something inherently undemocratic about threatening to physically attack someone who says something you do not believe in. Capitalism is one thing; threats bordering on terrorism because someone says something you don't agree with is another.

Anyway...take a few deep breaths, have a cup of tea, and reread my first post, and then this one. You may realize that my post was not spewing with vitriol; simply, it was an observation of my own culture.

I don't agree with the physical threats. That to me is wrong, but i don't understand why it's childish (as others on here have stated) to not buy and support people financially that i disagree with.

In regards to Arya, yes, i heard about Pearl Jam and how Eddie Vedder attacked an effigy of President Bush. You know what? i don't care how good they are, i have not, nor will ever buy their music or tickets again. It's NOT childish, if i don't want to support them i don't have to. It's exactly like if i don't want to support Pepsi, then i will buy only coke products.

The comparision to the buses in montgomery. Yes, the 2 situations have differences, but the main idea of the boycott, to withdraw support of a company due to it's political stances, is the same at heart. Would i be childish if i ceased to financially support a corporation that donates money to the KKK or a terrorist cell?

Everyone in this country is free to speak their mind, that's one of the great things about America. However, it is naive to think that if you do speak out on an issue like this that you will have the support of the entire American public. To say what she said either means that she has lots of guts, or she is brainless. Guts if she understood the repercutions, brainless if she thinks that by taking a stance on one side of a passionate issue that her fans on the other side will still blindly support her.

Lastly, if, lets say, J-Lo came out and said that she's pro-life, and embarrassed that she's a woman due to NOW's stances, i'm willing to bet that there would be similar mass boycotts from the left and some of these Chicks supporters would be among leading the rhetoric.

BTW, i don't drink 'cups' of tea, that's what the hippies down in austin drink. And don't tell me to simmer down like i'm a 8th grader throwing a tantrum.

Kitso
KS 361 times that i'm ashamed Natalie Maines is from Texas

[Rudey]

Originally posted by Arya
i hate to see how many people feel if rage against the machine are still around. BTW, Pearl Jam did something even more "contrversial" and u know what, most people wouldn't care less. Is it maybe the music they're playing or maybe they were males? And their shows have been getting rave review, and I have their new album and, beside ten, has to be their best work.

On a side now, any female that can play the mandolin is fine in my book.

People make their voices known. I refuse to support certain artists and Pearl Jam is on that list along with the Beastie Boys. I can think the Beastie Boys are quite possibly one of the most innovative bands, but I sure as hell won't be supporting them anymore.

-Rudey
--I might be ashamed of American idiots like Sean Penn and the Dixie Chicks, but I am glad I'm not French.

[AlphaGam1019]

hey! don't forget the other commies !

[mrblonde]

God bless you Munchkin, and God bless the South

This country is about freedom. Freedom to speak your mind about the President and his policies, freedom of a company to tell its radio stations not to play a certain song, and freedom to boycott.

[bethany1982]

Great Rant AggieSigmaNU361. Standing ovation!