Imposters - Page 2

DGWannabe · #1 11-02-2002, 11:52 AM

This message was edited b/c originally it was supposed to be a cute funny story, not start a fight here on GC (sorry)

astroAPhi · #2 11-02-2002, 02:44 PM

That's pretty awful. No matter how drunk I was I wouldn't be teaching anyone any of our ritual (I'm referring to the waitresses, not you DGwannabe).

Although that is pretty funny with the two organizations having similar grips. At least you were able to cover it pretty well!

Hmm... I don't think we all have the same grip. I suppose I could see it being a variation of each other's, but ours seems to be pretty specific to our organization.

carnation · #3 11-02-2002, 03:56 PM

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Originally posted by DGWannabe
I hang around with a lot of guys of the same fraternity. One day I met a member I hadn't seen in a while and he shook my hand and I guess out of habit (I don't shake hands with many people-I am a kissy-huggy girl) I kind of gave him my sorority handshake. I don't really see how he would have noticed but And since I've been in two sororites and all the drunk sorority waitresses I work with have divulged theirs I can honestly say I know several-they are all similar.

a) out of "habit", you "kind of" gave a guy your sorority handshake--even though you supposedly weren't Greek long--the sorority handshake you supposedly vowed not to reveal? Are you in the habit of giving males your handshake?

b) Drunk sorority waitresses? Are they drunk when they're working?

Do they give customers their handshakes?

c) how can you be certain that, since they were so drunk, they gave the correct handshake?

What a crock.

Next you'll be asking us what quota was at Mercer.

DigitalAngel126 · #4 11-02-2002, 04:53 PM

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Originally posted by DGWannabe
I guess out of habit (I don't shake hands with many people-I am a kissy-huggy girl).

If you don't shake hands with many people, since you're a kissy-huggy girl, how was that out of habit ??

Good call carnation!

crystalline · #5 11-02-2002, 05:36 PM

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Originally posted by DGWannabe
And since I've been in two sororites and all the drunk sorority waitresses I work with have divulged theirs I can honestly say I know several-they are all similar.

You've been in two sororities? How did you manage that??

Kevlar281 · #6 11-02-2002, 06:45 PM

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Originally posted by hoosier
Or Kappa might mean "not", as in ________ not _________,
so Pi Kappa Phi could mean Brotherhood, not bologna.

Well I know the Rush Committee is always looking for new slogans.

Angels&Arrows · #7 11-02-2002, 08:26 PM

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Originally posted by DGWannabe
I hang around with a lot of guys of the same fraternity. One day I met a member I hadn't seen in a while and he shook my hand and I guess out of habit (I don't shake hands with many people-I am a kissy-huggy girl) I kind of gave him my sorority handshake. I don't really see how he would have noticed but another brother took me aside later, who had been watching, and said "That was pretty funny the way you gave John the grip". and I was like what are you talking about and he said "Oh come on everybody saw you give him the grip-where'd you learn that?" SO-I know that my sorority and their fraternity have very similar handshakes. And since I've been in two sororites and all the drunk sorority waitresses I work with have divulged theirs I can honestly say I know several-they are all similar. I find it really interesting just because I am sure the XYZ founders and the ABC founders did not consult each other when forning these groups and yet they share many similar "secrets".

I am a little confused... Did you get initiated into both sororities?

I thought you "de-sistered" one, transfered schools and pledged a new group... Prior to initiation, the later GLO got a call from your first GLO... and the rest is history.

How do you know the handshakes for these two organizations?

Tom Earp · #8 11-03-2002, 12:10 AM

OOOOPPPS? What is this

I am in total a amazement for this post!

Was It a Hip Grip or a so-so grip?

As long as I have been in the GreekDom World, I only care adn want to know mine!

7 years as Police Officer, I thougth I had seen it alkl!

Wrong, I see worse daily!

Optimist Prime · #9 11-03-2002, 12:13 AM

The magic number is four. There are four basic grips. If there are more they are just variations on a theme.

And no, not everygroup has the same one.

Optimist Prime · #10 11-03-2002, 12:15 AM

Here is my theory on grips...The founders did NOT create them. Ever org started with one chapter. Everyone knew who everyone else was. When alumni came back, they just looked up the name in the registry, and no big deal. Only with expansion came the need to prove that you were brother/sister and oula, here comes grips.

ZZ-kai- · #11 11-03-2002, 01:50 AM

Fraternities "back in the day" were founded with one thing in mind, forming a group different than the others with the goal to hold themselves to higher standards and form a tight and everlasting bond. So, in a sense I agree with you that "grips" were not formed the night of your GLO founding (maybe the 1900's GLO's, but not much earlier than that. 1900's orgs. knew what other fraternities had, so they probably had a grip right away.).

Early on, grips were given for the purpose of entering secret meetings when fraternities were considered "Secret Societies". When one needed to get into a meeting, the grip was given. It was also source to tell if someone was a member of your org. by a simple shake. Simply giving the grip in front of faculty signifies "I'm a Beta, so are you, and this Prof. doesn't know therefore we won't be expelled....but ha ha to him for not knowing we just gave our grip right in front of him".

For example, the Chi Chapter of Beta Theta Pi was underground for about 20 years in the late 1800's. Imagine how important it was to keep secret, your relationship with the fraternity?

There are more than 4 basic grips. The hand may only be able to perform a certain amount of "grips", but there is a lot more than four. I've never heard that analysis before.

Kevin · #12 11-03-2002, 02:01 AM

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Originally posted by Optimist Prime
Here is my theory on grips...The founders did NOT create them. Ever org started with one chapter. Everyone knew who everyone else was. When alumni came back, they just looked up the name in the registry, and no big deal. Only with expansion came the need to prove that you were brother/sister and oula, here comes grips.

Not all organization's histories area as similar as that.

crystalline · #13 11-03-2002, 06:35 AM

When I was in high school I knew some kids who were in gangs. They taught me some handshakes and hand signals to flash if I was ever in a certain area, to be able to show that I knew one of theirs and that I should be left alone. I just find that interesting that such different groups use such similar tactics.

KappaTarzan · #14 11-03-2002, 06:58 AM

friday night while my sorority hosted a party a brother of abc fraternity gave a brother of xyz the abc handshake

apparantly the abc hadn't been around in a while and thought the xyz was his own brother.. tough situation... the xyz just kinda shrugged and pretended hed idn't know what was going on..

HotDamnImAPhiMu · #15 11-03-2002, 12:33 PM

DeltaBaby, Phi Mu does have secret meaning. I've heard a lot of girls say they forgot -- or just plain have no memory at ALL -- of things revealed to them during initiation. All the excitement and anticipation and nervousness can play tricks with your mind.

I know the secret meaning of Phi Mu is held so sacred it's not to be written or spoken freely. I'd imagine other orgs hold their meanings as close to their hearts as we do, so I bet a lot of the "meanings" you hear aren't true.

Phi Mu DOES have an "unofficial" meaning. We explain to the potential new members, when they come through, that the Phi can be seen to represent the continuity and unity of the group intersected by the individuality of the individual (as in, the circle intercected by the upright bar in the greek letter F )and the Mu can be seen to represent the hills and valleys of life, through which we depend on each other to grow and develop into better women (as in, the points in the greek letter M ).

That is NOT at ALL our secret meaning. In fact, I'm not completely sure it's not something my CHAPTER didn't just make up. It's just something little we use to demonstrate to the potential new members that in a GLO there is meaning behind EVERYTHING, and if you are chose to be a part of that meaning you need to be prepared for more than just parties and alcohol.

DGWannabe, I find it hard to believe you didn't know about Panhellenic rules.