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Old 11-01-2002, 04:17 PM
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eek.. be careful, you never know what may happen if MTV does decide to film you.. if you ever decide you want to try to go national, it might nolonger be an option.. good luck...
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Old 11-05-2002, 02:12 AM
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are they doing another sorority at your school?
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Old 11-05-2002, 03:15 AM
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What does Jamison say?
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Old 11-05-2002, 03:42 AM
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Mr. Jamison Keller, CSUN's Greek Advisor, has requested a meeting with me through email last week. I replied requesting his availability so we could jointly schedule an appointment ASAP.

Oddly enough, he hasn't set a date or time for the meeting, I was under the impression he was seriously concerned for us and wished to meet immediately.

Just out of curiousity, what should I expect Jamison to tell me? Yes, I have read what you all have told me in this thread, but since I'm not in the habit of reading advisor's minds on these sort of matters, what could I expect to have happen during a meeting with him about the MTV issue? Will he express his concerns about the school image if we do accept? Would he threaten to kick my organization off campus, pull our charter, that sort of thing?
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Old 11-05-2002, 05:58 AM
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I think the major thing that he could/would say to you guys is that, if you want to really do this then be prepared for whatever results it may bring. Positive and negative.
Are you guys prepared to somewhat if not completely have your lives interrupted with camera and sound crews following your every move? Prepared to have some sort of backlash from other greeks on your campus? Also, maybe even by other media and people in general? Plus a lot of other stuff to take into consideration. Are you guys gonna be able to handle it and stick it out if the you do this, and your numbers drop and recruitment sucks the following year. Are you gonna be able to handle it, if you get way more numbers then expected but don't know whether guys have come because of your recent fame or if they are truly genuine about joining?
Like someone said and not trying to dog you guys out or anything, but like someone said, if you're trying to see what problems your fraternity has, MTV may not be the solution to it. If anything it may turn bros./friends against each other (ex: Jordan and Amanda, but I think that would have happened sooner or later). Plus you seem to already know your chapter has issues (whose doesn't) so there's no need for MTV's help.
If you're looking for 30 mins of fame and fun a week, how about throwing a huge party and inviting the whole campus instead of MTV?
Yeah, its also nice that MTV is throwing around free furniture, housing and clothes, but you could have a fundraiser and get that stuff yourselves. Plus it could help to bring your chpater closer.
You wanna give your guys something new and exciting? After exams, midterms, whatever, get all the bros together, go on a kinda spontaneous trip someplace..it doesnt matter where, get all the sh!t that maybe going on out in the open, think..no,come up with ways to get your chapter going straight again, and say starting from that day this chapter/orgs. attitude starts fresh and NEW. And for the exciting part, end the trip with a stop at a strip club, take a few pics with Hooter girls and have some wings, and maybe toilet paper a house or two. Live it up with whatever you guys think is fun. :P
Inotherwords, even though I wouldnt encourage it, and I am not saying you guys shouldnt think about it or flat out not do it, but there are plenty of other ways to make life exciting and/or deal with chapter issues besides bringing MTV in.
Who knows, you guys may have better luck if you get it. Highly doubt it though since, last week I read an article about the two orgs at UB doing it and they have had pledges drop and are starting to slowly regret their decisions with what MTV is doing with them. The shows havent even aired yet.
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When SAEP received an e-mail from a member of UB's DXO with questions about coping with the stress of the relentless surveillance, the
organization's president, Becca, who spoke under the condition that her last name be withheld, replied: "Why didn't you call me before
you signed the agreement?"
Anywho, I am so not trying to ride a high horse but am saying be careful and give it some serious thought. It may be the chance of a lifetime and fun, but does/will your chapter think its worth it in the end? Wish ya the best of luck and whatever happens have fun and hope the issues work themselves out either way.
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Old 11-05-2002, 10:39 AM
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Here's the whole Buffalo News article.

http://www.buffalonews.com/editorial...30/1027855.asp

The thing that would turn me off on this before ANYTHING is that you can't have any TV or music in the house...I knew they did that with RW & RR but I didn't think Sorority Life did too.
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Old 11-05-2002, 12:46 PM
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This is interesting information. I wasn't aware of most of the restrictions regarding the filming (beyond the TV issue, because that makes sense). The questions I didn't see answered were what restrictions were placed on the fraternity house, or initiated members? I doubt MTV would be able to make the house off limits in the case of lighting or TV or even computer internet access.
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Old 11-05-2002, 01:03 PM
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According to the article they not only provided the pledge houses, they spiffed up the existing houses, which leads me to guess that the no TV/radio rules apply there as well. The original season had several scenes in the existing house so they would have had to alter it for camera placement. They did get to use computers but I would bet they had to use whatever ISP MTV has a promo deal with.

It says no one participating can play music while they are being filmed in their cars or wherever. So even if you don't live in the pledge house or regular house, if anything is filmed at your house, the TV and radio have to be off.

If you have any questions, I would drop the girls from Sigma AEPi an email.
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Old 11-05-2002, 01:10 PM
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Your advisor is probably going to warn you about the effects of what could possibly be caught on camera. MTV could take anything that you do or say completely out of context and something could appear like hazing which is not. I don't know how your pledging process is, but you are going to have to be careful no matter what if there are cameras following you through it.


You should really make sure that all your members agree before you sign anything.

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Old 11-05-2002, 04:45 PM
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I've been contemplating making whatever active motion we make to "accept" MTV's proposal be unanimous. At least in that way, we'll all be making a statement that we all agree to be in this together. Some members are arguing against me on this measure, but I guess that would tell me there are some people against it in the organization.

If MTV makes no TV a rule in the house, that should weaken the support for the movement that advocates getting filmed.

MUSIC will not be a problem.
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Old 11-05-2002, 06:33 PM
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I fully expect that Jamison will tell you that MTV will be barred from filming anywhere on University property. He will probably also tell you that your chapter may suffer consequences/punishment for anything that is filmed that violates University policy. That is what happened at Davis.
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Old 11-05-2002, 07:12 PM
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Yeah, that's a given. Actually, he'd probably put it in nicer terms, but yeah, that's the gist of what I expect to hear.
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Old 11-05-2002, 09:35 PM
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Have you contacted sigma aepi or any of the other two organizations that are filming now? You would probably want feedback from them before you decided to do this.
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