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12-15-2017, 05:13 PM
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Why couldn’t all University IFC offices work with each fraternity HQ to identify which groups are having issues? (Yes, initially, it would be much work to coordinate, but after that, it could be a monthly/bi-monthly report sent via email.) Each university IFC office could report incidents to the individual HQs and vise versa.
If this does already happen, it’s not working well.
Then, any verified issues for that campus could be given to PNMs prior to recruitment.
Just read the heartbreaking article of the Gruver parents who said if they had known the past hazing incidents of the LSU Phi Delt chapter, they would have asked their son if that group was the best to join. Plus, young men going through recruitment could ask members how they are addressing issues (hazing, low GPA, social probation, etc.).
If could help with accountability. Plus, the rest of the Greek groups on each campus already KNOW which groups haze, but most other groups wouldn’t “gossip” as it's considered bad form. Please don’t say Rush Disadvantage. With each misdeed, that chapter makes its bed.
This goes for NPC groups too.
Kevin - any legal concerns with this?
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12-15-2017, 05:14 PM
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https://www.nbcmiami.com/news/local/...464433723.html
Florida International University will suspend all Greek activities for at least one month.
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12-15-2017, 06:18 PM
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If they would be specific as to what the hazing entailed, that would be one thing. But I doubt any GLOs would make that known, and there's a huge gap between "made pledges wear sorority colors on Fridays" and "made pledges eat animal poo."
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12-15-2017, 11:03 PM
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Update from Ohio State regarding fraternity suspensions.
http://www.dispatch.com/news/2017121...end-suspension
"Ohio State University’s Office of Student Life has distributed guidelines and requirements to its suspended fraternities, requiring them to identify and address high-risk behaviors to move toward reinstatement.
"The eight-page document, distributed to the fraternity chapters Friday, comes after Ohio State’s decision last month to indefinitely suspend activities at all 37 of the fraternities governed by its Interfraternity Council. The memo sent Friday details action steps regarding recruitment, new-member activities, social culture, monitoring and continuing education, and alumni, adviser and parent involvement. It emphasizes reducing alcohol use and ending hazing."
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12-15-2017, 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Benzgirl
Update from Ohio State regarding fraternity suspensions.
http://www.dispatch.com/news/2017121...end-suspension
"Ohio State University’s Office of Student Life has distributed guidelines and requirements to its suspended fraternities, requiring them to identify and address high-risk behaviors to move toward reinstatement.
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So for reinstatement, the students have to agree to criminally incriminate themselves? Again, this seems pretty constitutionally suspect.
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12-16-2017, 12:24 AM
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*still can't figure out how this is supposed to change the behavior*
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12-16-2017, 02:52 PM
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"Action steps"
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01-15-2018, 04:51 PM
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My godson was “released” 10 days before Initiation because he was “too good”
And would be a drag on the chapter. Not a drinker or party person, honor student,
That wanted to give back to the community...
You would think the perfect member for many reasons but obviously not for them.
My heart just broke when I was told and I’m still so very angry and disappointed.
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01-15-2018, 05:46 PM
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We know someone that happened to at Georgia Tech, and his dad was a member of the same chapter.
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01-20-2018, 08:29 AM
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We know someone that happened to at Georgia Tech, and his dad was a member of the same chapter. 
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Ugh.
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01-15-2018, 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by piphi74
My godson was “released” 10 days before Initiation because he was “too good”
And would be a drag on the chapter. Not a drinker or party person, honor student,
That wanted to give back to the community...
You would think the perfect member for many reasons but obviously not for them.
My heart just broke when I was told and I’m still so very angry and disappointed.
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I talked with a mom the other day whose son pledged a "popular" fraternity at a very prominent Greek Life Campus. She said that he realized after recruitment that he got caught up in "tent talk" and his values did not align with the fraternity he pledged. He asked for and was granted a release...and soon after pledged a fraternity full of "his people" who were more focused on academics and leadership (not that the other fraternity did not offer that but it did not seem to be the focus or reputation).
This is the other side of the spectrum from your godson but maybe IFC gives young men an opportunity to move on from a potential bad fit even if the pledges or actives do not see it initially. I hope that your godson is not soured on fraternity life and finds a home somewhere that his values will be appreciated.
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01-15-2018, 10:04 PM
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My youngest son (the one I had given birth to right before I joined GC, lol) is planning to rush this fall. I desperately hope he can find a group with strong values and that he will be a fraternity man, not a "frat boy".
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01-20-2018, 12:46 PM
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My youngest son (the one I had given birth to right before I joined GC, lol) is planning to rush this fall.
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Wow, that's crazy to think about!
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02-21-2018, 10:16 AM
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Miami University(OH) has suspended all fraternity activities and pledge programs. All current pledges must be initiated into their respective organizations by 5 pm on Feb. 23.
http://miamistudent.net/ifc-suspends...ty-activities/
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02-21-2018, 12:42 PM
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Miami University(OH) has suspended all fraternity activities and pledge programs. All current pledges must be initiated into their respective organizations by 5 pm on Feb. 23.
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Six chapters which have not yet been identified are on cease and desist orders and may not initiate any new members
https://www.cincinnati.com/story/new...rts/358432002/
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