Thong-checking administrator demoted

[madmax]

Originally posted by dzrose93


Why did he pull a gun (albeit a starter pistol) on a student?????????

According to the news reports a couple of girls were teasing the teacher after class. He asked them to leave and they didn't so he pulled the gun.

[dzrose93]

Originally posted by madmax



According to the news reports a couple of girls were teasing the teacher after class. He asked them to leave and they didn't so he pulled the gun.

Talk about bad judgement.

[SATX*APhi]

Originally posted by madmax



According to the news reports a couple of girls were teasing the teacher after class. He asked them to leave and they didn't so he pulled the gun.

What is wrong with some people??

I can understand if this teacher was licenesed to carry a gun and ond of his students pulled a gun out on him, but just because two students were teasing him after class and would not leave?! The teacher sounds like he has personal issues, probably about beind ridiculed while a kid or something.

Doesn't stuff like this skare you? You never know what idiots are teaching kids now-a-days.

[Kevin]

Considering the way they pay teachers (and the red tape BS they have to put up with) it's amazing ANYONE wants to teach these days.

It's getting to the point where the statement "Those can't do teach" becomes more and more true.

[Honeykiss1974]

Originally posted by madmax



According to the news reports a couple of girls were teasing the teacher after class. He asked them to leave and they didn't so he pulled the gun.

He must have had a flashback to his old high school days of being teased....

But back to the article, first off, If I'm the assist. principle and someone asked me to do that...........HECK NO!!!!!!!!!! There is no way I'm checking folks (kids, adults, the elderly, etc.) for the type of underwear that have on!!!!

[ZTAngel]

As many bad teachers that I had going through the public school system and as many times that I have said, "Those can't do, teach", I still give mad props to those dedicated teachers out there. I have had a handful of teachers who went above and beyond to help me understand what they were teaching or help me prepare for college. These are teachers that I will remember for the rest of my life.
With a salary like a teacher's salary, the people who go into the profession must dedicated. Out of all my friends who are majoring in education, I have never heard one say, "I'm doing it for the money." They'd probably get laughed at. They all say that they're doing it because they want to be that person who shapes a kid's life.
It's just too bad that horrible teachers such as these overshadow some of those wonderful and dedicated teachers that we have had while growing up.

[Rudey]

Originally posted by ktsnake
Considering the way they pay teachers (and the red tape BS they have to put up with) it's amazing ANYONE wants to teach these days.

It's getting to the point where the statement "Those can't do teach" becomes more and more true.

In 1999-2000, the average teacher's salary was $41,820. Median household income in the US was $42,148 in 2000 and $42,187 in 1999. You will notice that the figure for a teacher is for one person and not even for an entire family.

Most likely a teacher within a family would contribute to a much higher MHI than many other professions. On top of that, the work hours are much less than many other jobs. Tag that along with a lot of union benefits and a ton of vacation time, and it becomes difficult to justify it as a money matter. The solution isn't higher pay. A lot of this country's problems with education revolve around one of the most, if not the most, powerful unions in America - The UFT. Also marketing for the profession is horrible, with many students automatically assuming teaching should be a fall-back career. And I really think that many people just don't have the patience to deal with people, let alone kids.

The thong thing is just bizarre...how would that rule arise? Perhaps they were wearing low pants where the thongs would pop up or something? I have no idea.

-Rudey

[SigmaChiCard]

I'm not sure if you're at all closely related to anyone in the teaching profession, but my father was one of the best high school math professors in my county and I've met countless people throughout the years who have told me how he had completely changed their lives and their perceptions on life by being a real-world teacher as well as one in the class room. He's retired now and when I considered the possibility of becoming a Calculus professor he told me he would never allow me. Now I'm not certain where you get you're figure, and to be honest I'm not certain what my father made, but believe me life was never an easy ride and as an instructor, a counselor, and a slave to the Kentucky education system $40G a year comes nowhere near to what he deserved in salary.

[33girl]

There is beaucoup teacher - school board/community tension raging at my old high school. The main gripes are the pay scale and the fact that teachers want to pay nothing for their medical benefits. The average teacher salary is around $50,000 and average salary for most people in the district is probably not more than $30,000. Also there are a fair amount of low-income and elderly people in the district.

So if you're looking for sympathy for the "poor teachers" I am probably not the right one to ask. Oh, and I forgot to mention that 2 of the nearby districts are among the poorest/lowest salary ones in Pennsylvania. Nice professional unity, NOT.

[LeslieAGD]

Originally posted by ktsnake
It's getting to the point where the statement "Those can't do teach" becomes more and more true.

As a future teacher, I have a major problem with this. Are there some crazy wack-jobs out there that shouldn't be teachers? Yes, but that shouldn't make all teachers the subject of ridicule.

The woman in this article was completely out of line and, like aephi alum said, she should take a position where she has no contact with the students.

[MooseGirl]

I can't believe what this woman did! I know we hold teachers to a higher standard than the average joe, but for good reason....they are teaching our children, and in some cases are more involved than parents in their lives!

On top of that, the work hours are much less than many other jobs.

It may appear that they work less, but you have to consider prep time every night, and mandatory "volunteer" extracurricular activities. Many teachers do also work during the summer or take classes to stay up to date. I had a friend who figured out that technically she'd be earning $3/hr if she included all these extras.

Also marketing for the profession is horrible, with many students automatically assuming teaching should be a fall-back career. And I really think that many people just don't have the patience to deal with people, let alone kids

I agree though that too many ppl take this job as a fall-back. I did. I went to teacher's college this year and dropped out after my first in-school practicum. I did not want to be a teacher and that just forced me to face up to it.
But I know that there are many others that should've left with me...many who were doing this until they could afford grad school.

[KSig RC]

Originally posted by MooseGirl
I had a friend who figured out that technically she'd be earning $3/hr if she included all these extras.

If your friend makes the average salary for teachers (I'm trusting Rudey's figures here, and setting it at 41g), that figure might be a little off - or impossible, unless we have a ten-day work week.

(That would be around 250 hours a week of work, at 3 bucks an hour, 50 weeks a year)

Teachers get a bad rap, but there are a lot of people making far less with college degrees, with jobs that are equally thankless. Social work pops into mind, even before looking up median salaries . . . It's a tough job, but one that is greatly rewarding to some, and unequivocally important.

[fuzzylogicAG]

Frankly, how much a teacher makes depends on where they live. Where I'm from, you could start anywhere from $21,000 to $28,000 but the highest you could ever make would be $35,000, and it takes a lot of years teaching before you reach that. Of course, the cost of living here is a little less BUT real estate has been rising while paychecks haven't.

Someone up there said that they had education majoring friends who never said they did it for the money, and it's the same idea for all the ed. majors I know, including myself. Someone else up there also said that they had no sympathy for teachers. Most of us are not looking for sympathy, just understanding. People don't realize what teachers put up with to teach their kids. I mean, their jobs have become quite dangerous in the past few years.

[Corbin Dallas]

I agree with some of the statements about how teachers are paid plenty, but disagree with some others. My sister just graduated and is going to be a kindergarten teacher. She's starting out in the mid 20's around $26k i think. that's not bad money. you can't consider only the hours put in at the school, which would be what, about 40 hours a week i guess, because there is work they have to do at home (my girlfriend's mom is also a teacher, and i've seen her working on stuff late plenty) now granted, there are teachers that probably don't do anything outside of school, but most, ESPECIALLY elementary teachers have to do that stuff. Summer teaching is extra pay, so that doesn't count in their "extra hours". i think there are seminars that they have to go to and classes that they don't get paid for though, included in their salary. you can't argue with that much vacation though! they get what 2.5 months in the summer, 2 weeks at christmas, and various days throughout the year. i say this balances out the extra work they have to put in after hours. i think they earn their salary, and a top scale teacher will bring in 40-50k depending on the area. i tell you what though, if you paid me $100k a year, i wouldn't be a teacher. i couldn't handle it!

[mmcat]

i had heard about that and found it hard to believe it was true.
at my school, we've talked about appropriate dress, but thongs
are not illegal.
we try to encourage them to at least wear underwear.
mmcat