Allegations of racism at KKG fundraiser.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by als463

The Muscular Dystrophy Association (MDA) has sponsored "Jail and Bail" events to raise money for their cause. Is that offensive?

I wonder if in this instance, potentially insensitive is closer to the mark than offensive.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

I wonder if in this instance, potentially insensitive is closer to the mark than offensive.

I think "Jail & Flail" would be way more insensitive.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by 33girl

I think "Jail & Flail" would be way more insensitive.

Way more! But I wasn't clear—by "this instance," I meant the instance in the OP. Sorry.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by flowerchild241

I guess this really depends on where you a from. I am aware that nationally there is a major disparity in the arrest rates / prison sentences of african americans/minorities to whites but where I'm from that isn't the case. I grew up in a planned? City I guess where the intent when building it was to mix people of different races and socioeconomic backgrounds. They put mansions, moderately priced single family homes, and low income housing all not to far from each other. And then by having school systems set up by district you get everyone to mingle.

Basically my point is most people where I'm from wouldn't be offended by this if it took place at our school just because of how everyone grew up. It just depends on who you ask and what their take on things is.

Even "planned cities" (all cities are "planned" but I know what you mean) have these issues. The issues are just more hidden.

[DeltaBetaBaby]

Originally Posted by flowerchild241

I guess this really depends on where you a from. I am aware that nationally there is a major disparity in the arrest rates / prison sentences of african americans/minorities to whites but where I'm from that isn't the case.

Where are you from?

[DrPhil]

That was a really good thread.

[DrPhil]

I know you weren't being snarky. I asked if you read this thread because whether people consider a "Jail and Bail" theme offensive will depend on the audience.

This thread is based on the foolish decision of white people to do a "Jail and Bail" fundraiser for a nonprofit that predominantly services disadvantaged racial and ethnic minorities (Reading is Fundamental***).


*** No pun intended

[als463]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

I know you weren't being snarky. I asked if you read this thread because whether people consider a "Jail and Bail" theme offensive will depend on the audience.

This thread is based on the foolish decision of white people to do a "Jail and Bail" fundraiser for a nonprofit that predominantly services disadvantaged racial and ethnic minorities (Reading is Fundamental***).


*** No pun intended

^ I see what you did there. Ha! Nice.

Like I said, I never really thought about it. I know you are saying the audience is important and RIF could be associated with poverty and marginalized populations but, I do not know enough about muscular dystrophy to recognize if in a situation like that this would be offensive. I actually see both sides of the coin on this one.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by als463

^ I see what you did there. Ha! Nice.

LOL

Originally Posted by als463

Like I said, I never really thought about it. I know you are saying the audience is important and RIF could be associated with poverty and marginalized populations but, I do not know enough about muscular dystrophy to recognize if in a situation like that this would be offensive. I actually see both sides of the coin on this one.

I would say mimicking jail and bail could potentially rub anyone the wrong way. The difference between thinking an event is stupid (just don't attend) and thinking it is offensive (cancel or change the event) tends to be whether there are larger implications.

Organizations should research prior to planning events:
http://www.rif.org/us/about/press/minnesota-correctional-facility-mcf-stillwater-named-reading-is-fundamental-program-of-the-month%20.htm

http://www.ctappleseed.org/projects/cicc.shtml

http://www2.ed.gov/policy/elsec/leg/esea02/pg71.html

http://www.corrections.com/news/arti...in-corrections

[als463]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

LOL




I would say mimicking jail and bail could potentially rub anyone the wrong way. The difference between thinking an event is stupid (just don't attend) and thinking it is offensive (cancel or change the event) tends to be whether there are larger implications.

Organizations should research prior to planning events:
http://www.rif.org/us/about/press/minnesota-correctional-facility-mcf-stillwater-named-reading-is-fundamental-program-of-the-month%20.htm

http://www.ctappleseed.org/projects/cicc.shtml

http://www2.ed.gov/policy/elsec/leg/esea02/pg71.html

http://www.corrections.com/news/arti...in-corrections

Good points.