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04-01-2014, 11:22 AM
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Everyone in this thread is prejudiced. No one in this thread is objective.
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Speak for yourself.
He may be guilty as hell. No one here really knows that though.
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04-01-2014, 11:26 AM
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Kevin, I will speak for you, as well.
Stop trying to depict yourself as GC's objectively unbiased commenter. You are typing based on your experiences and perspectives just like everyone else. You aren't the only person who knows that we don't know the full story and that legally it is innocent until proven guilty. You are commenting just as everyone else is commenting.
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04-01-2014, 11:50 AM
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Legally, he's proven guilty. RTA.
You just keep showing your ignorance of the legal system post by post.
And how can you maintain that I'm prejudiced if I haven't taken a position? I'm just pointing out the possibility of other positions and that drawing absolute conclusions from the evidence presented is not a rock-solid position to be in.
I have taken the position that CPS caseworkers are often underqualified and that there are no jobs out there which require so little training for so much responsibility. If you can think of one, let me know.
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04-01-2014, 12:12 PM
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Yes, I know this man has been found guilty. The news story (that has been discussed all over the media) is that he "dodged a bullet" after being found guilty.
Anyway, no one in this thread is without prejudice and bias. Including you.
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04-01-2014, 10:21 PM
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Because you don't know the degrees, licenses, or credentials I hold, please don't just assume that it took you much more work to earn those letters after your name than the letters after my name. You don't even know what letters I have after my name. There you go assuming again.
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04-02-2014, 12:10 AM
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Yep. I should say that many people here on GC have various levels of education and hold multiple graduate-level degrees. No one should assume that they worked harder than anyone else for those letters behind their name.
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04-02-2014, 01:03 AM
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Because you don't know the degrees, licenses, or credentials I hold, please don't just assume that it took you much more work to earn those letters after your name than the letters after my name. You don't even know what letters I have after my name. There you go assuming again. As I said earlier, I don't trust your instincts because you hold a particular degree. Your judgment towards children telling the truth or just being liars says more than enough for me to believe that you should not work with small children.
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If the letters after your name were remotely comparible to those after mine, you would have said so.
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04-02-2014, 07:31 AM
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If the letters after your name were remotely comparible to those after mine, you would have said so.
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Not everyone has to engage in a pissing contest about whose education is more prestigious. Graduate work is hard, y'all.
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04-02-2014, 08:16 AM
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Since Kevin insists on playing the letters game:
Kevin needs to be schooled on what the letters behind his name mean, different professional opinions regarding those letters, and the professional difficulties faced by the average person with those letters.
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04-02-2014, 08:40 AM
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It's safe to say that a case worker is going to generally have these letters after her name: "B.A." Anything more and she's qualified to do better paying and much less stressful work. 99% of the time, this is a very safe assumption. So yes, in just about all cases, my training and expertise >>>> the case worker's. You might have advanced degrees now, which I still doubt, but you damn sure didn't as a CPS worker.
Let's get back to the question you don't seem willing to answer--are forensic interviews of three-year-olds iron-clad?
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Are forensic interviews of anyone iron-clad?
FWIW - the CPS/social workers I know 1.) have advanced degrees (if there were no reason to have advanced degrees I doubt there would be as many graduate programs) and 2.) don't do "higher paying or much less stressful work" because they are unable to - they do it to make a positive difference in the life of a child. I realize that our society doesn't value that particular motivation - but there you have it.
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04-02-2014, 11:48 AM
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A case worker is not necessarily the same as a social worker. But I guess everyone knows that.
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04-02-2014, 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Sen's Revenge
A case worker is not necessarily the same as a social worker. But I guess everyone knows that.
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Hence my use of CPS/social worker. They are often related - I know of some women with degrees in social work who work or worked for CPS - but yes, not necessarily the same.
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04-02-2014, 01:19 PM
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A case worker is not necessarily the same as a social worker. But I guess everyone knows that.
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A social worker in Oklahoma has to have a specialized license with training. I routinely employ. A case worker has to have a bachelor's degree and a pulse. If they're any more highly qualified, they'd probably be doing a different job.
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04-02-2014, 01:28 PM
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A social worker in Oklahoma has to have a specialized license with training. I routinely employ. A case worker has to have a bachelor's degree and a pulse. If they're any more highly qualified, they'd probably be doing a different job.
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A case manager in DC doesn't even require a Bachelor's, truth be told.
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