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09-18-2012, 02:00 PM
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Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but can't you set total wherever you want? So after formal, the average chapter size is 100, but everyone wants to do a spring rush, so make total 110. That allows for the strongest chapters to take 2 or 3 girls and the weakest chapters to take 15 or 20, presuming that nobody is terribly far off of chapter total.
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NPC suggest doing Ave (Mean), Median or Max chapter size as total every year.
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09-18-2012, 01:45 PM
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So, I've spent a couple of years reading RFM and total/quota posts with the idea of understanding, but "ain't there yet." If a woman suicides, she HAS signed an MRABA, right? Isn't it the signature on the MRABA that binds her for a year? I must be missing something. Can she COB, but not rush formally for a year? I didn't think so, but I'm certainly not the expert.
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09-18-2012, 01:47 PM
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So, I've spent a couple of years reading RFM and total/quota posts with the idea of understanding, but "ain't there yet." If a woman suicides, she HAS signed an MRABA, right? Isn't it the signature on the MRABA that binds her for a year? I must be missing something. Can she COB, but not rush formally for a year? I didn't think so, but I'm certainly not the expert.
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You are not bound if you don't get a bid. If you sign the MRABA without maximizing your options, and go bidless, you are not bound to anything. You are not eligible to be a quota addition, but you are eligible for COB at any time.
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09-18-2012, 02:28 PM
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I think there are several of us who are really intrigued by this scenario. Are there any issues with sharing with us what school so we can understand what we're dealing with? I'm imagining a variety of best practice answers, depending on what type of school, # of potential rushees, chapter sizes, number of chapters, etc. Obviously we don't want this to turn into an opportunity to bash the little guy, but if there isn't an obvious loser as a result of sharing details, we might be able to weigh in with some interesting alternatives.
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09-18-2012, 02:46 PM
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I'm probably in the minority here, but I don't see the problem with having just one formal recruitment in the fall. I went to a big state school my freshmen year. I transferred to the school (from community college) in January. UA didn't have a structured (per say) informal recruitment in the spring. I kind of went to what ever houses I was interested in. As I wanted to go Greek, I willingly went with it. I could have waited until the fall and done formal recruitment, but I didn't want too. I'm not sure how many new freshmen UA got that spring, but my feeling is you either do the informal in the spring or wait until formal in the fall.
Having been a recruitment advisor (albeit for a school that ADPi is the only NPC on campus right now) formal recruitment is incredibly stressful. The amount of time and energy that goes into it, unless the chapters are "doing" the same thing in spring and fall, I personally think having two formal recruitments puts a lot of stress on the chapters. Some chapters aren't strong at formal recruitment but excel at informal.
Have you guys thought about keeping the formal fall and having a semi-structured informal spring?
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09-18-2012, 03:07 PM
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Why not change the policy so that recruitment takes place in the spring and freshmen are eligible to participate? Less time and expense for everyone rather than having multiple formal recruitments. Lots of schools have deferred spring recruitment.
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09-18-2012, 04:02 PM
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Just for giggles I looked in the green book. My copy is 16th edition. Page 90 NPC Policies and Unanimous Agreements:
1. A membership recruitment period should be held in the fall, as close as possible to the start of the academic year, and be conducted in as short of a period of time as possible.
2. NPC recommends College Panhellenics sponsor no more than one structured recruitment per academic year
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09-19-2012, 02:16 AM
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1. A membership recruitment period should be held in the fall, as close as possible to the start of the academic year, and be conducted in as short of a period of time as possible.
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I'm actually pretty surprised the UAs say all this.
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09-20-2012, 03:10 PM
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I'm actually pretty surprised the UAs say all this.
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"Should be" and "recommends" are code words for "we want everything to run this way but know there's not a snowball's chance in hell that it ever will."
Obviously these things were pushed through by a Panhellenic whose members (i.e. the actual humans sitting there, not the orgs) skewed to larger schools/rushes. Personally I don't see the point of "shoulds" that you can't enforce in any way.
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09-18-2012, 05:05 PM
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Have you talked with your NPC area adviser And the NPC
Delegates for your groups? I'd start with them to get their
More seasoned advice.
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09-25-2012, 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Titchou
Have you talked with your NPC area adviser And the NPC
Delegates for your groups? I'd start with them to get their
More seasoned advice.
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Hello, thank you all so much for your advice and sorry for the long delay in response.
We are in the process of getting in touch with our NPC area advisor--we didn't even know that we had one! Thanks again, you GCers are such a wealth of information!
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09-18-2012, 10:32 PM
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BFE???
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09-18-2012, 10:35 PM
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BFE???
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Egypt
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09-18-2012, 10:39 PM
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Butt...let's just say Fornicate. LOL
Now that I bring that up, I'm going to go see if a Beta Phi Epsilon exists anywhere.
Success! It does.
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