NPC adding new council members--do you think it could/will happen?

[sigmadiva]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

Wouldn't this be true of the four NPHC fraternities that are also members of the NIC, though? Or is there a difference between NPHC fraternities and NPHC sororities in this respect?

Based on the way you described the NIC, they don't seem to have as rigid a structure as the NPC, so for the NPHC fraternities that are part of the NIC it may not be a "big deal" to be a member. Meaning, being a member of the NIC will not hinder or change any aspect of being a member of the NPHC.

On the other hand, the NPC has very specific rules about their member organizations to the point where I would think it may have a strong hindrance and change to how the NPHC sororities would function. And, like I said, just the fact that I don't think many older (read monied ) NPHC members will want to embrace the NPC.

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by sigmadiva

Based on the way you described the NIC, they don't seem to have as rigid a structure as the NPC, so for the NPHC fraternities that are part of the NIC it may not be a "big deal" to be a member. Meaning, being a member of the NIC will not hinder or change any aspect of being a member of the NPHC.

On the other hand, the NPC has very specific rules about their member organizations to the point where I would think it may have a strong hindrance and change to how the NPHC sororities would function. And, like I said, just the fact that I don't think many older (read monied ) NPHC members will want to embrace the NPC.

I don't think they would either. The Unanimous Agreements of the NPC would probably change quite a few things for NPHC organizations should they choose to join. City wide chapters would not be allowed under NPC guidelines, I'm pretty sure. The format of recruitment is soooo different, and the UAs were set up to prevent the larger organizations from outpacing the smaller organizations with less resources. Unfortunately, this does make for a lot of restrictions. It works for us, but I don't see that all the rules would be attractive to organizations who have been very successful under their own power for 100 years or so.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by sigmadiva

Based on the way you described the NIC, they don't seem to have as rigid a structure as the NPC, so for the NPHC fraternities that are part of the NIC it may not be a "big deal" to be a member. Meaning, being a member of the NIC will not hinder or change any aspect of being a member of the NPHC.

On the other hand, the NPC has very specific rules about their member organizations to the point where I would think it may have a strong hindrance and change to how the NPHC sororities would function. And, like I said, just the fact that I don't think many older (read monied ) NPHC members will want to embrace the NPC.

Gotcha. Thanks.

[clarinette]

There might be rules which apply to NPC rush groups which the other GLO's don't want to abide by, and by rules, I mean dress codes and things of that nature.

[AlphaFrog]

Originally Posted by clarinette

There might be rules which apply to NPC rush groups which the other GLO's don't want to abide by, and by rules, I mean dress codes and things of that nature.

I think dress codes woyld be the LEAST of the rules worries. Besides, other than competing with the other sororities that do wear matching clothes during rush, there is no NPC "dress code".

[clarinette]

Originally Posted by AlphaFrog

I think dress codes woyld be the LEAST of the rules worries. Besides, other than competing with the other sororities that do wear matching clothes during rush, there is no NPC "dress code".

At my school, there's a dress code during rush week, which all the sisters in the sororities have to comply to.
There's other stuff they have to do, but seeing as I'm not a member of one of the social sororities, most of the stuff I have is hearsay.

[AlphaFrog]

Originally Posted by clarinette

At my school, there's a dress code during rush week, which all the sisters in the sororities have to comply to.
There's other stuff they have to do, but seeing as I'm not a member of one of the social sororities, most of the stuff I have is hearsay.

That's an individual case at one university that would really have zero effect on SAI making a national decision to join NPC. Besides, if SAI became part of the CPH, which they would have to do if they became NPC, they would get a say in things like rush week dress code - which is campus-specific policy that can be changed.

[DubaiSis]

I think this is interesting. I don't have an opinion, except that I think it would be interesting to watch a new sorority grow and change over time, as well as what they would do for NPC. The NPC sororities have changed so much in terms of who they accept and what they do, I think it would be interesting to see how a Latina or gay or some other sorority would change the mix of the larger consortium.

[DrPhil]

I agree with MysticCat, sigmadiva, and AOIIAngel.

[DeltaBetaBaby]

I really don't see NPHC orgs joining NPC; the more likely scenario is a group not currently with a council. Off the top of my head, Theta Nu Xi and Alpha Omega Epsilon both meet the criteria. Others meet the size requirements, but have citywide chapters.

From the MOI:

Requirements for Membership
A women’s fraternity must have been established in its national character for
a minimum of 13 years; all of its collegiate chapters must be established in
senior colleges and universities authorized to confer bachelor degrees and
recognized by the appropriate regional association of colleges and
universities; and it must have at least 14 chapters, of which the latest
established is at least two years old.

[sigmadiva]

Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby

I really don't see NPHC orgs joining NPC; the more likely scenario is a group not currently with a council. Off the top of my head, Theta Nu Xi and Alpha Omega Epsilon both meet the criteria. Others meet the size requirements, but have citywide chapters.

From the MOI:

Requirements for Membership
A women’s fraternity must have been established in its national character for
a minimum of 13 years; all of its collegiate chapters must be established in
senior colleges and universities authorized to confer bachelor degrees and
recognized by the appropriate regional association of colleges and
universities; and it must have at least 14 chapters, of which the latest
established is at least two years old.

First, not all NPHC chapters are city-wide. A few are, but most are on "traditional" college campuses. For SGR in particular, there was a push a few years ago to permanently close our city-wide chapters.

Second, based on the criteria above, NPHC sororities could meet the NPC requirements.

The issue is that would the NPHC sororities want to join the NPC, and that answer more than likely would be no. We would have to make some changes to how we do things and I don't see us doing that. At all. Ever. No how. No way.

[Munchkin03]

Originally Posted by sigmadiva

The issue is that would the NPHC sororities want to join the NPC, and that answer more than likely would be no. We would have to make some changes to how we do things and I don't see us doing that. At all. Ever. No how. No way.

Frankly, I doubt that the NPC would want to accept the NPHC groups either.

[OHNOITSJESS]

Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby

I really don't see NPHC orgs joining NPC; the more likely scenario is a group not currently with a council. Off the top of my head, Theta Nu Xi and Alpha Omega Epsilon both meet the criteria. Others meet the size requirements, but have citywide chapters.

From the MOI:

Requirements for Membership
A women’s fraternity must have been established in its national character for
a minimum of 13 years; all of its collegiate chapters must be established in
senior colleges and universities authorized to confer bachelor degrees and
recognized by the appropriate regional association of colleges and
universities; and it must have at least 14 chapters, of which the latest
established is at least two years old.

Speaking for Alpha Omega Epsilon while we do meet the criteria, I don't think we'd want to lose the engineering/hard sciences and professional focus we'd give up to join the NPC. We are a part of the Professional Fraternity Association (along with SAI, TBS, KPsi, DSP, etc....) though.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by OHNOITSJESS

Speaking for Alpha Omega Epsilon while we do meet the criteria, I don't think we'd want to lose the engineering/hard sciences and professional focus we'd give up to join the NPC.

This raises an interesting question. Would a group like AOE have to give up a focus like that? There are groups in the NIC with focus on a particular area of study: Triangle, Alpha Gamma Rho, FarmHouse and maybe one or two others. Would NPC by-laws or policies prohibit that?

[OHNOITSJESS]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

This raises an interesting question. Would a group like AOE have to give up a focus like that? There are groups in the NIC with focus on a particular area of study: Triangle, Alpha Gamma Rho, FarmHouse and maybe one or two others. Would NPC by-laws or policies prohibit that?

I think since (correct me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure i read it somewhere) that NPC groups can't discriminate based on anything but gender, it would force us to broaden our focus.