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04-19-2011, 06:20 PM
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I wish every house had this sentence hanging on the wall.
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Yes, but that won't get members paying dues coming bursting through the doors, and that is what the organizations care about at the end of the day. You can be friends with whomever you want, but recruitment is recruitment, and the focus is on the chapter's image.
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04-19-2011, 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by adpiucf
Yes, but that won't get members paying dues coming bursting through the doors, and that is what the organizations care about at the end of the day. You can be friends with whomever you want, but recruitment is recruitment, and the focus is on the chapter's image.
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It also doesn't do much for the image of a sorority on campus who boots members that get pregnant and/or need support in other ways, particularly if it's a small campus where everybody knows your name.
In my experience, that did more damage than letting her be.
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04-19-2011, 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by agzg
Sometimes showing true sisterhood and support is more important than looking bad to a bunch of PNMs during recruitment.
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Originally Posted by MikeEllis
I wish every house had this sentence hanging on the wall.
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Originally Posted by adpiucf
Yes, but that won't get members paying dues coming bursting through the doors, and that is what the organizations care about at the end of the day. You can be friends with whomever you want, but recruitment is recruitment, and the focus is on the chapter's image.
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Whoa, all the guy said was that this is a good philosophy to live by. Rather than worrying about how every PNM views you, you should take into consideration your sisters' feelings first.
I mean, geez, I feel like if I wrote "Live. Laugh. Love." in my signature, you'd say, "No, because you might die tomorrow.. And not everything is funny.. And not every guy is going to like your ass."
Or maybe every chapter should hang a banner on the wall that reads, "Our goal is to look good and get sisters/brothers who will pay their dues!"
ETA: and agzg DID start her comment with, "Sometimes..."
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04-19-2011, 11:19 PM
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Originally Posted by adpiucf
Yes, but that won't get members paying dues coming bursting through the doors, and that is what the organizations care about at the end of the day. You can be friends with whomever you want, but recruitment is recruitment, and the focus is on the chapter's image.
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I haven't ever been pregnant, but judging by what I hear, recruitment in my experience is the last thing I'd want to be doing if I have morning sickness/other pregnancy related ailments. This person might want to skip recruitment (which has nothing to do with the stigma of a pregnant active)
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04-19-2011, 11:29 PM
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I haven't ever been pregnant, but judging by what I hear, recruitment in my experience is the last thing I'd want to be doing if I have morning sickness/other pregnancy related ailments. This person might want to skip recruitment (which has nothing to do with the stigma of a pregnant active)
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Conveniently solving 'both' problems? That reeks of 'hide the fatties in the kitchen.'
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04-20-2011, 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by adpiucf
Yes, but that won't get members paying dues coming bursting through the doors, and that is what the organizations care about at the end of the day. You can be friends with whomever you want, but recruitment is recruitment, and the focus is on the chapter's image.
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This quote right here has me as an outsider looking in feeling like man are ya'll really a sisterhood or a clique?
Just comments from the outside.
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04-21-2011, 07:19 PM
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When I was active we had one of our sisters pregnant and she was active at the time too. In fact she was our Panhellenic delegate. She did go alum at the end of the semester but that was because she was going to be a 5th year senior.
Although, I heard, there were some chapters that would make their members go alum.
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04-19-2011, 11:25 PM
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Pffft, I was healthier when I was preggo versus not. I never got sick (well, only if I smelled chicken, and that wasn't until my 3rd trimester), my skin and hair looked amazing (I love prenatal vitamins), and I was horny all the time. Pregnancy is different for everyone.
Bottom line is the member will do what is best for her and her baby, hopefully with the support of her sisters.
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04-19-2011, 11:26 PM
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Pffft, I was healthier when I was preggo versus not. I never got sick (well, only if I smelled chicken, and that wasn't until my 3rd trimester), my skin and hair looked amazing (I love prenatal vitamins), and I was horny all the time. Pregnancy is different for everyone.
Bottom line is the member will do what is best for her and her baby, hopefully with the support of her sisters. 
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Haha, i used to take prenatal vitamins for the hair/skin benefits in HS when i wanted my hair to grow, didn't work, probably because you need to be pregnant for them to work
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04-20-2011, 12:11 AM
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Haha, i used to take prenatal vitamins for the hair/skin benefits in HS when i wanted my hair to grow, didn't work, probably because you need to be pregnant for them to work 
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Nope, they work just fine, even when you aren't preggo. Lord, I've even heard "ZOMG, you can't take pre-natal vitamins if you aren't pregnant, because they decrease the effectiveness of The Pill!!!!" Not true. I wasn't in a chapter that had 70% pharmacy students for nothing!
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04-20-2011, 12:37 AM
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Originally Posted by ASTalumna06
Whoa, all the guy said was that this is a good philosophy to live by. Rather than worrying about how every PNM views you, you should take into consideration your sisters' feelings first.
I mean, geez, I feel like if I wrote "Live. Laugh. Love." in my signature, you'd say, "No, because you might die tomorrow.. And not everything is funny.. And not every guy is going to like your ass."
Or maybe every chapter should hang a banner on the wall that reads, "Our goal is to look good and get sisters/brothers who will pay their dues!"
ETA: and agzg DID start her comment with, "Sometimes..." 
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OMFG How dare you! Not everyone has a wall to hang a banner on! Not everyone has walls, or maybe their House Corp. won't let them hang up anything. I can't believe how insensitive you are!
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Nope, they work just fine, even when you aren't preggo. Lord, I've even heard "ZOMG, you can't take pre-natal vitamins if you aren't pregnant, because they decrease the effectiveness of The Pill!!!!" Not true. I wasn't in a chapter that had 70% pharmacy students for nothing! 
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WTF are you serious? I am so thankful I've never heard that before. Do people not realize that the things in prenatal vitamins are in food and other vitamins? Sure over exposure to certain vitamins could be an issue, but it wouldn't cause an issue with birth control.
Stupidity and ignorance are what decreases the effectiveness of The Pill, and possibly some antibiotics, antifungals, and other medications. It is wise to always ask a doctor or pharmacist about any interactions.
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04-20-2011, 08:03 AM
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Bottom line is the member should do what is best for her and her baby, hopefully with the support of her sisters. 
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i took the liberty of changing one word in your final statement. i know of various sorority members who were totally out of touch with their situation(trying to continue with school, working, sorority and pregnant-sorority seeming to be the highest on the priority list) and tried to keep doing it all, and with all that pressure, none were done well.
Offering a pregnant collegiate member alumna status is not a punishment. it is a way to keep the member connected to the sorority, while allowing her more freedom and personal time to take care of personal business.
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04-20-2011, 11:18 AM
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i took the liberty of changing one word in your final statement. i know of various sorority members who were totally out of touch with their situation(trying to continue with school, working, sorority and pregnant-sorority seeming to be the highest on the priority list) and tried to keep doing it all, and with all that pressure, none were done well.
Offering a pregnant collegiate member alumna status is not a punishment. it is a way to keep the member connected to the sorority, while allowing her more freedom and personal time to take care of personal business.
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I think "offering" is the key word here. Giving her the OPTION, but not making it a requirement.
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04-20-2011, 12:45 PM
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I think "offering" is the key word here. Giving her the OPTION, but not making it a requirement.
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exactly. I feel the same way about groups/policies that decrease the requirements for seniors, don't allow them on exec board etc. Yes, some seniors are crazy busy and welcome the break, but some aren't and don't relish feeling like they're being pushed out. It's different for everyone.
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04-20-2011, 02:04 PM
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exactly. I feel the same way about groups/policies that decrease the requirements for seniors, don't allow them on exec board etc. Yes, some seniors are crazy busy and welcome the break, but some aren't and don't relish feeling like they're being pushed out. It's different for everyone.
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From being in a chapter that had almost no requirements for seniors to now requiring the same of them--- it seems like people are upset either way. Seniors were always welcome at everything when it wasn't required, but they felt like no one wanted them there. Now that they have to be there, it is like no one respects their senior status/understands they are crazy busy with other things.
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