New Morehouse College Policy Bans Sagging

[DaemonSeid]

actually...I find this interesting...the gay community at Morehouse itself voted to allow this rule to pass:

Couple this knee-jerk response with Morehouse's recent firing of an employee who made fun of that fabulous gay wedding, and we're not sure what to think of the school's feelings towards the gays. (Morehouse's Bynum insists the policy change came after he met with Morehouse Safe Space, the campus' gay organization, which voted to OK the policy change. "Of the 27 people in the room, only three were against it.")

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[NinjaPoodle]

*HI! Sorors BlueReign & SeriousSigma22!*

AKA_Monet, I think you hit the nail on the head.

One other thing. If it were possible, I think some schools should go back to In loco parentis.

[AKA_Monet]

Originally Posted by NinjaPoodle

AKA_Monet, I think you hit the nail on the head.

One other thing. If it were possible, I think some schools should go back to In loco parentis.

Thank you for your kind response, not trying to crash your thread.

What you are saying is from Booker T. Washington's "Up From Slavery"--for Tuskegee University.

I think many people who poo-poo-ed HBCU's in the 1980's & 1990's are finding that an HBCU-education is a unique learning complex that actually works for African Americans for really >100 years. That says something.

[33girl]

AKA_Monet, thanks for bringing up some points that no one else did. I don't think I realized Morehouse was that close to/in Atlanta proper. (Or more likely, I underestimated how doggone big Atlanta is.)

[AKA_Monet]

Originally Posted by 33girl

AKA_Monet, thanks for bringing up some points that no one else did. I don't think I realized Morehouse was that close to/in Atlanta proper. (Or more likely, I underestimated how doggone big Atlanta is.)

The Atlanta University Center, that typically includes Spelman/Morehouse are located in the West End Center, off the I-20, nearby I-75. 2-3 Marta stops from Peachtree (how do I know )

I have heard that area has progressively gone downhill due to drugs & violence. While I was there, there were some students involved in serious drug trade, but the guns were not there until I was a senior. I graduated out in time.

Several social determinants are unfulfilled there.

Just like Ninjapoodle said, folks are sending their kids and copious amounts of money so that the schools will watched over these students, they would and EARN a degree the SpelHouse way. The Spelhouse Way includes appropriate dress AND appropriate behavior--i.e. etiquette--a Southern style of etiquette (religious mixed with ethnic cultural customs, rituals and behaviors).

[NinjaPoodle]

Originally Posted by AKA_Monet

Thank you for your kind response, not trying to crash your thread.

What you are saying is from Booker T. Washington's "Up From Slavery"--for Tuskegee University.

I'm going to pick this up and read it. Thanks!

I think many people who poo-poo-ed HBCU's in the 1980's & 1990's are finding that an HBCU-education is a unique learning complex that actually works for African Americans for really >100 years. That says something.

It speaks volumes.

[Righteous_Kamal]

Peace All,

Aka_Monet most definitely sealed the deal. I matriculated into Morehouse College years ago and was unimpressed by what I saw and unfortunately experienced. I am glad that this President seems to want to clean up the image of the Morehouse Man. I am saddened that people actually find cause to disagree with this code or "call to proper decorum". What happened to "dress to impress"? Or "your first impression is your best one"? We as Black people should want to embrace those positive attributes that build up our race.

[SeriousSigma22]

Righteous Kamal,

So true. . .I don't understand why so many young African Americans walk around and refust to conform to the norms of society. It's so easy to go with the flow and still have it going on.

[NinjaPoodle]

So, as I was reading this month's EBONY mag, I read this article:

http://www.ebonyjet.com/politics/edu....aspx?id=17442

A Modern Morehouse Man
Are HBCU traditions at odds with freedom of expression?
August 17, 2010
DO CLOTHES REALLY MAKE THE MAN?
By Kevin Chappell

They do if the man is a Morehouse Man. That’s the overriding opinion of school administrators, faculty, alumni and students who put the brakes on “feminine gender expression” last school year after a group of students showed up to class reportedly wearing tight jeans, blouses, pumps and purses. The cross-dressing students not only prompted a new dress code of sorts at the historically Black all-male school in Atlanta, but they also ignited a debate over everything from homophobia to masculine decorum to freedom of expression.

AT ISSUE: Exactly what does it mean to be a Morehouse Man in 2010?

Click the link to read the rest

[AKA_Monet]

Originally Posted by NinjaPoodle

So, as I was reading this month's EBONY mag, I read this article:


Click the link to read the rest

Interesting read...

As I understood what I read, it wasn't so much the "cross-dressing" as it was all "inappropriate dress" and Morehouse, Bynum, addressed it all at once.

Two things though:

Especially for Morehouse - not opening any worms here, but I did have quite a few friends I graduated with that realized they were gay. This was 20 years ago, so for Black men to say they were gay back in that day was verboten.

Then a close friend of mine who now works at Morehouse said that there was heinous unethical impropriety between Faculty and students, targeting gay ones. How does that help these young mens' self-esteem which is already at odds with the community?

What does this have to do with dress?

With a Lesbian friend of mine stated that sometimes when young males cross dress and they are not getting massively paid to do it like "impersonators", that they are doing it as their only form of protest--essentially to act out--like a cry for help sort of thing. Something I never considered. The Trevor Project for LGBTQI attempts to address this issue from a mental health perspective. Sadly, there is a derth of information for cultural competency in mental health...

So here is a door that can be opened in what is the "healthiest" sexuality preference that a Black male student can have at Morehouse College?

[33girl]

Thank you for explaining that. I was confused as a lot of crossdressers are straight as they come as far as they only have sex/want to have sex with women. In other words, putting on a dress doesn't make you gay and is often far from it.

[BluPhire]

Originally Posted by AKA_Monet

Interesting read...

As I understood what I read, it wasn't so much the "cross-dressing" as it was all "inappropriate dress" and Morehouse, Bynum, addressed it all at once.

Two things though:

Especially for Morehouse - not opening any worms here, but I did have quite a few friends I graduated with that realized they were gay. This was 20 years ago, so for Black men to say they were gay back in that day was verboten.

Then a close friend of mine who now works at Morehouse said that there was heinous unethical impropriety between Faculty and students, targeting gay ones. How does that help these young mens' self-esteem which is already at odds with the community?

What does this have to do with dress?

With a Lesbian friend of mine stated that sometimes when young males cross dress and they are not getting massively paid to do it like "impersonators", that they are doing it as their only form of protest--essentially to act out--like a cry for help sort of thing. Something I never considered. The Trevor Project for LGBTQI attempts to address this issue from a mental health perspective. Sadly, there is a derth of information for cultural competency in mental health...

So here is a door that can be opened in what is the "healthiest" sexuality preference that a Black male student can have at Morehouse College?

As somebody that went to an old tradition HBCU and high school went to an all-male school. This is a fight that will not be won in days, months or years.

All this controversy has done has opened the eyes of the rampant homophobia within the black community. When you solve that issue, then the Morehouse issue will solve itself.

I guarantee this has been used against Morehouse in terms of recruiting new students.

[DaemonSeid]

Vibe adds fuel to the fire...Morehouse president responds

[BluPhire]

Yeah I read the article.

Very eye-opening.

[NinjaPoodle]

It was an interesting article. It reinforced what I was thinking: abide by the school's policy or go to a different school. The young man said something that stood out. He said that Morehouse was not ready for him which may be the case. Morehouse my NEVER be ready. It's a conservative thinking school. Let it go. Find a school that has polices you can live with and move on.