Question for NPHC members

[ladygreek]

What I find interesting about all of this is that it only applies to collegiate chapters. Alumnae chapters in an area are not required to form NPHC councils.

And while I understand that the ruling came from the NPHC Council of Presidents, it would still be up to the individual orgs to monitor it and who has time for that? We all have bigger fish to fry.

[AKA_Monet]

I agree with you L.O.C.K. There should be nothing wrong with interacting with whatever groups NPHC affiliates chooses to.

However, the issue is at most P.W.I.'s with all D9 organizations, interested young people have issues with joining the D9 as we have discussed ad nauseum on GC.

Let's put it like this: I know for a fact, the Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority, Inc. Alpha and Mu Pi chapters at Howard U. and Spelman College, respectively, have 300-500 girls showing up at their Rushes with full application materials. I know at Spelman there is a 30 girl per semester cap. That means, young ladies with less than desirable GPA's or other requirements will not be invited toward membership into my Sorority. These colleges can take the cream of the crop.

This kind of activity rarely if happens on PWI's. So, the low numbers is a huge issue at least in my Sorority...

[ladygreek]

Originally Posted by AKA_Monet

I agree with you L.O.C.K. There should be nothing wrong with interacting with whatever groups NPHC affiliates chooses to.

However, the issue is at most P.W.I.'s with all D9 organizations, interested young people have issues with joining the D9 as we have discussed ad nauseum on GC.

Let's put it like this: I know for a fact, the Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority, Inc. Alpha and Mu Pi chapters at Howard U. and Spelman College, respectively, have 300-500 girls showing up at their Rushes with full application materials. I know at Spelman there is a 30 girl per semester cap. That means, young ladies with less than desirable GPA's or other requirements will not be invited toward membership into my Sorority. These colleges can take the cream of the crop.

This kind of activity rarely if happens on PWI's. So, the low numbers is a huge issue at least in my Sorority...

Spelman's cap is 30??? whoa nellie!!!! That explains a lot. Does HU have a cap now? At one point I know it was 50, then it was lifted, then it was reinstated, and now I don't know the status.

[L.O.C.K.]

What I heard was that there is a cap but for some reason the recharter line of 137 didn't have to follow it. Not sure tho...just heard it through the grapevine.

[ladygreek]

Originally Posted by L.O.C.K.

What I heard was that there is a cap but for some reason the recharter line of 137 didn't have to follow it. Not sure tho...just heard it through the grapevine.

Reactivation lines are generally allowed to lift the cap since there are so many prospects that have been waiting.

[DSTCHAOS]

Line caps are a splendaforous idea.

[BlueNYC2]

Originally Posted by ladygreek

Spelman's cap is 30??? whoa nellie!!!! That explains a lot. Does HU have a cap now? At one point I know it was 50, then it was lifted, then it was reinstated, and now I don't know the status.

i dont think so...cuz the AKAs Alpha chapter SP07 line had 92 that crossed...

[L.O.C.K.]

Ooo yea that's right. That's where I heard about it and the cap issue. Interesting...

[ladygreek]

Originally Posted by L.O.C.K.

Ooo yea that's right. That's where I heard about it and the cap issue. Interesting...

And for further clarification, the caps are imposed by the schools, not the org, and definitely not the chapter.

[AKA_Monet]

I don't know the cap on HU's campus. I do know Spelman College imposed a cap but the current number has fluctuated from 30-60 from one year to another. I do know they only like Spring intakes.

The bigger problem is one of "legacy apps"... But that's an off-line convo...

My point is at most HBCU's and well known chapters: Alpha, Pi, and Mu Pi (my former chapter) chapters are going to have a problem with who they can take in vs. who they voted on come 2008... It just has to do with having that '08 on the line jacket...

Trolls strolling outta the woodworks. My grad chapter is already having crazy women wondering about us.

These trolls ought to be selling 10 tables with ads for our Founder's Day events... But, I am not interested in having my pearls snatched.

[Sugar08]

Originally Posted by AKA_Monet

I don't know the cap on HU's campus. I do know Spelman College imposed a cap but the current number has fluctuated from 30-60 from one year to another. I do know they only like Spring intakes.

There is no cap at Howard. The administration leaves it to the discretion of the organization's regional director.

Originally Posted by AKA_Monet

My point is at most HBCU's and well known chapters: Alpha, Pi, and Mu Pi (my former chapter) chapters are going to have a problem with who they can take in vs. who they voted on come 2008... It just has to do with having that '08 on the line jacket...

Very, very good point, Soror.

[Senusret I]

Originally Posted by Sugar08

There is no cap at Howard. The administration leaves it to the discretion of the organization's regional director.

Sugar.... it sounds like you're a Howard grad. Quick question for you -- any insight as to why NPHC orgs can't have fall lines there, but other Greek-lettered orgs can?

[Sugar08]

Originally Posted by Senusret I

Sugar.... it sounds like you're a Howard grad. Quick question for you -- any insight as to why NPHC orgs can't have fall lines there, but other Greek-lettered orgs can?

I'll have to put my journalism degree to work to find out the exact answer...

But off the top, I'd suspect it's simply tradition supported by current University policy. I know that all intake processes (I believe this applies to both the NPHC and orgs like Delta Sigma Pi/Pershing Rifles) must be completed by Spring Break each year. I've never heard of a Fall line of any D9 org at Howard, and I'm guessing that is tied to the fact that 5/9 Alpha chapters are located there.

I don't think it's a matter of them not being allowed to have a Fall intake. Considering how long the intake processes are for some orgs, and that others expect aspirants to spend Fall semester getting to know the members... it just isn't feasible.

Hope that helped.

[ladygreek]

Originally Posted by Senusret I

Sugar.... it sounds like you're a Howard grad. Quick question for you -- any insight as to why NPHC orgs can't have fall lines there, but other Greek-lettered orgs can?

I didn't know it was as school rule. In Delta Fall lines are not very feasible considering the process a chapter has to go through to do intake. Some have done it, but more as an exception rather than the rule.

[Senusret I]

Originally Posted by Sugar08

I'll have to put my journalism degree to work to find out the exact answer...

But off the top, I'd suspect it's simply tradition supported by current University policy. I know that all intake processes (I believe this applies to both the NPHC and orgs like Delta Sigma Pi/Pershing Rifles) must be completed by Spring Break each year. I've never heard of a Fall line of any D9 org at Howard, and I'm guessing that is tied to the fact that 5/9 Alpha chapters are located there.

I don't think it's a matter of them not being allowed to have a Fall intake. Considering how long the intake processes are for some orgs, and that others expect aspirants to spend Fall semester getting to know the members... it just isn't feasible.

Hope that helped.

Thanks!

Originally Posted by ladygreek

I didn't know it was as school rule. In Delta Fall lines are not very feasible considering the process a chapter has to go through to do intake. Some have done it, but more as an exception rather than the rule.

It might not be a rule, but I was once given the impression that it was. (But that was a while ago.)