Study: You may be more racist than you think

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by preciousjeni

I just took the test at https://implicit.harvard.edu/implicit/. It's black/white preference as well as political preference for the 2008 election. I'm not even going to say what my racial preference was except to say that it was "strongly" in one direction. My political preference was "moderately" toward Obama.

interesting test....

I apparently scored as one who moderately like AfAm more than EurAms and apparently the percentage of those that score in that direction is around 4%.....hmmmm

heh!

[christiangirl]

Originally Posted by preciousjeni

I just took the test at https://implicit.harvard.edu/implicit/. It's black/white preference as well as political preference for the 2008 election. I'm not even going to say what my racial preference was except to say that it was "strongly" in one direction. My political preference was "moderately" toward Obama.

I had "little to no" racial preference. That sounds about right for me.

[preciousjeni]

They have an Arab Muslim - Other People test:

https://implicit.harvard.edu/implici...lectatest.html

[RU OX Alum]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

...you forgot New York City...

totally off topic, but that made me think of the Pace picante sauce commercials

/tangent

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by RU OX Alum

totally off topic, but that made me think of the Pace picante sauce commercials

/tangent

thank you!!! LOL

NEW YORK CITY????


....get a rope!

[epchick]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

I think my only problem with studies like these, especially with the global community being the way it is now, is simply what about the inclusion of other races and their interactions with each other in these types of studies.

We actually had a discussion about this in one of my classes last year. Someone mentioned that it is easier to use a white person and a black person in those studies because one will always be viewed as the "good" person while the other will be viewed as the "bad" person.

If you were to use a black & a Hispanic person, many people would view them as a "bad" person vs. a "bad" person.

If you were to use a white & an Asian person, people would view it as a "good" person vs. a "good" person.

I don't know how logical that is, but many people in the class agreed with this person's ideas. But then this is the same class where a girl claimed all the people in the military are only there because they are uneducated & couldn't do better for themselves (didn't go over well, since we are in a military town and most of us only live here cause our parents were in the military)--and people agreed with her too.

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by epchick

We actually had a discussion about this in one of my classes last year. Someone mentioned that it is easier to use a white person and a black person in those studies because one will always be viewed as the "good" person while the other will be viewed as the "bad" person.

If you were to use a black & a Hispanic person, many people would view them as a "bad" person vs. a "bad" person.

If you were to use a white & an Asian person, people would view it as a "good" person vs. a "good" person.

I don't know how logical that is, but many people in the class agreed with this person's ideas. But then this is the same class where a girl claimed all the people in the military are only there because they are uneducated & couldn't do better for themselves (didn't go over well, since we are in a military town and most of us only live here cause our parents were in the military).

Good point.

Especially when you consider cultural assimilation when people of other races come to the US.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by epchick

We actually had a discussion about this in one of my classes last year. Someone mentioned that it is easier to use a white person and a black person in those studies because one will always be viewed as the "good" person while the other will be viewed as the "bad" person.

If you were to use a black & a Hispanic person, many people would view them as a "bad" person vs. a "bad" person.

If you were to use a white & an Asian person, people would view it as a "good" person vs. a "good" person.

I don't know how logical that is, but many people in the class agreed with this person's ideas.

That's extremely logical based on the stereotypes of Hispanics (those who aren't racially white) and blacks. Overwhelmingly poor, undereducated, underemployed, criminogenic and looking to blame "the man" and wait for a government handout.

Asians are generally considered a "model minority" who are stereotyped as being smart and to be able to match wits with whites (who are the power and numerical majority). Asians are also held as being able to teach blacks and Hispanics how to take advantage of the GLORIOUS educational, social, and economic/entrepreneural opportunities that this country offers.

[PiKA2001]

Originally Posted by epchick

I don't know how logical that is, but many people in the class agreed with this person's ideas. But then this is the same class where a girl claimed all the people in the military are only there because they are uneducated & couldn't do better for themselves (didn't go over well, since we are in a military town and most of us only live here cause our parents were in the military)--and people agreed with her too.

I don't get that about El Paso. Why is everybody always bashing on Ft. Bliss and the BILLIONS of dollars they pump into this economy?

[epchick]

Originally Posted by PiKA2001

I don't get that about El Paso. Why is everybody always bashing on Ft. Bliss and the BILLIONS of dollars they pump into this economy?

Don't ask me, I shred that girl a new one when she mentioned it. lol.

I haven't really heard any bashing about Ft. Bliss (i've heard comments about the military in general) but people are always gonna say something. I've learned to ignore, especially in this community, Mexicans are so ignorant most of the time.

[UGAalum94]

Originally Posted by epchick

Don't ask me, I shred that girl a new one when she mentioned it. lol.

I haven't really heard any bashing about Ft. Bliss (i've heard comments about the military in general) but people are always gonna say something. I've learned to ignore, especially in this community, Mexicans are so ignorant most of the time.

Kind of funny in this thread.

ETA: my results from the Harvard thing: Your data suggests a slight automatic preference for Black people over White people
(or a pretty internalized fear of being thought of as racist since I think I have a slight automatic preference for White people actually.)

Your data suggests a moderate automatic preference for Barack Obama over John McCain (Sure, but give me Sarah Palin vs. Obama and we'll see where that gets us.)

[epchick]

Originally Posted by UGAalum94

Kind of funny in this thread.

Eh. Well, it's true.

I've pretty much decided that I don't want to raise my children in this area. I don't want them growing up with the mentality I did. People here (family included) need to grow up and educate themselves more.

[CutiePie2000]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

"Even using that most extreme comment didn't lead people to be particularly upset," said co-author Elizabeth Dunn, assistant professor of psychology at the University of British Columbia in Vancouver.

I'm sorry, I'm not willing to risk my personal safety correcting the behavior or pointing out the behavior of someone who is acting like an AH. There are some crazy-a$$ people out there.

I think this researcher is totally missing the point.

[DrPhil]

To build on epchick's post, a big reason why blacks and whites are used in most studies of race and ethnic relations is because blacks have long been the largest racial minority group in the U.S. To get a comparable sample size of other minorities generally requires oversampling unless the research goal is to examine Asians and Hispanics but not to compare these groups to the larger groups of "black" and "white."

People of Hispanic origin have increased in population however this includes a large population of black (race) Hispanics (ethnicity/culture), white Hispanics, and Hispanics who identify with more than one race. So for studies that are secondary analyses of census data and other datasets or for researchers who collect their own data, the 2-category system is most applicable and accurate.

Lastly, there is a rich historical interaction between people of European and African descent in the U.S. and a few other societies. Often only matched or surpassed by the history of peoples of "Native American" descent in the Americas and people of European descent.

[squirrely girl]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

I think my only problem with studies like these, especially with the global community being the way it is now, is simply what about the inclusion of other races and their interactions with each other in these types of studies.

i always wonder about this too.