early Valkrie reviews are not promising

[AKA_Monet]

Originally Posted by moe.ron

$5 for a bootleg? I pay $.63 here in Indonesia.

Don't talk about bootlegs unless you got some to offer... Wassup with the hook up?

While there quite a few internet site, too, I have recently found out about tracking devices on sites, lately...

[cheerfulgreek]

At 1st I thought it was going to be in subtitles, boy was I glad it wasn't.

[moe.ron]

Originally Posted by AKA_Monet

Don't talk about bootlegs unless you got some to offer... Wassup with the hook up?

While there quite a few internet site, too, I have recently found out about tracking devices on sites, lately...

It's pretty blantant here in Indonesia. They're very upfront about it and have shops in malls. I'll take pics of the place.

It's also hilarious, last year, the American ambassador was complaining about dvd piracy in a news conference here. About 3 hours later, I saw him buying bootleg DVDs. I guess, when in rome.

[AKA_Monet]

Originally Posted by moe.ron

It's pretty blantant here in Indonesia. They're very upfront about it and have shops in malls. I'll take pics of the place.

It's also hilarious, last year, the American ambassador was complaining about dvd piracy in a news conference here. About 3 hours later, I saw him buying bootleg DVDs. I guess, when in rome.

Are they any good, not some dude walking around with popcorn? And do they have surround sound? Cuz if I give you titles, I want the hook up? LOL.

[PrettyBoy]

Originally Posted by AKA_Monet

Are they any good, not some dude walking around with popcorn?

Dead!

Every time I see the movie trailers, I think of GreekChat's valkyrie and I miss her posting.

[honeychile]

Originally Posted by AKA_Monet

All this to say, I would never think Tom Cruise as an actor could effectively pull off a legit, non-glamorizing "Nazi" movie. It's like portraying the Antebellum south American pre-Civil War movie--just overall, not a good "period piece" effort for him... Tom Cruise with a Southern Accent? Has he done that before? IDK?

In reality, the Valkyrie plotters wondered about that very thing, a lot. Would people believe that there were Good Germans, or would the world think that they were all Nazis? Even though these people were mostly Nazis, they had joined the party either to "fix" Germany or because they were forced to do so, just to work. It happens. The one plotter who doesn't seem to be mentioned much (Adam von Trott) was constantly going to Sweden, England, and other countries to try to get their support.

[amanda6035]

i saw the movie tonight. I was disappointed. Of course, that probably had alot to do with the fact that i sat on the row where everybody and their grandma had to get up 4 times during the movie.

[AKA_Monet]

Originally Posted by honeychile

In reality, the Valkyrie plotters wondered about that very thing, a lot. Would people believe that there were Good Germans, or would the world think that they were all Nazis? Even though these people were mostly Nazis, they had joined the party either to "fix" Germany or because they were forced to do so, just to work. It happens. The one plotter who doesn't seem to be mentioned much (Adam von Trott) was constantly going to Sweden, England, and other countries to try to get their support.

IDK? I am no expert, but I think the German law is "once a Nazi, always an Nazi"... And I believe Simon Wiesenthal would say "never again"... This whole movie just seems like I might be waiting for it on HBO--unless moe.ron hooks me up with the bootleg.

[honeychile]

I got very interested in the plot after reading The Berlin Diaries 1940-1945 by Marie Vassiltchikov. It's one of a kind in so many ways, I'm sure to be disappointed by Valkyrie, but I have to see it.

You can read a little about the author here. "Vassiltchikov's diaries are the only known first-hand account of the July 20th Plot to kill Adolf Hitler. In addition, her description of the repeated bombing of Berlin is considered one of the best testimonies of that event."

"In addition, her [Missie's] diaries detail the bombing of Berlin, the daily life of what remained of Berlin's cosmopolitan pre-war nobility and intelligentsia, and her own journey from privilege to near-death at the end of the war."

If you're not going to see the movie, give yourself a treat, and read Missie's book!

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by OTW

Every time I see the movie trailers, I think of GreekChat's valkyrie and I miss her posting.

Same here. I saw one of her posts the other day and felt nostalgic.

[LucyKKG]

I saw it this weekend, and it was alright. "Downfall" was wayyyy better. I think the story was very interesting, but the movie just wasn't that good.

[honeychile]

Finally saw Valkrie today. Granted, the line of kids waiting to see Madagascar made everyone late for all of the other movies, but I only missed about 5-8 minutes. Maybe that's when all of the good stuff happened? There were so many historic errors that it frankly made me uncomfortable. I kept thinking that either Monty Python's troupe would show up, or someone would start singing, "Springtime for Hitler".

It was just that bad.

[RU OX Alum]

valkryie was the best greekchatter ever