AL Teen Missing in Aruba

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by Alumiyum

It might be how it works for you.

And for many others who engage in such discussions.

If you don't want to engage in this specific discussion, you can exit stage left, as I thought you were doing when KSig RC was typing to you.

[Alumiyum]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

And for many others who engage in such discussions.

If you don't want to engage in this specific discussion, you can exit stage left, as I thought you were doing when KSig RC was typing to you.

I can also post my own thoughts, just as I thought we were all allowed to do. You can, of course, ignore them if they are irrelevant to your own posts. I was not exiting the entire thread regarding KSig, I was simply disgusted by his "jokes" and had no wish to have anything to do with him.

[DrPhil]

Anyway, it's interesting because this thread is almost 6 years old and despite how this thread began with a discussion of victim precipitation, I resisted temptation and waited almost 6 years to post. Yet, 6 years is not enough time for some people to be able to discuss the issues that are embedded in stories such as Holloway's. That is very interesting and speaks volumes beyond victim sympathy.

[Alumiyum]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

Anyway, it's interesting because this thread is almost 6 years old and despite how this thread began with a discussion of victim precipitation, I resisted temptation and waited almost 6 years to post. Yet, 6 years is not enough time for some people to be able to discuss the issues that are embedded in stories such as Holloway's. That is very interesting and speaks volumes beyond victim sympathy.

And what does it speak of?

Aside from myself (as I have already given the reason that I am not objective), who else? I've not read anything particularly emotional or subjective in a while in this thread.

[DrPhil]

Since Alumiyum keeps wanting to type to me....

It speaks on what some of us have been talking about for the past few pages. And, as I keep telling Alumiyum, this discussion isn't about her. It is a general observation. Surely she notices that she is not the only person who has expressed certain views in the past 5 or so pages. The same applies to such discussions outside of Greekchat (some of us have those, as well). Some people are very sensitive about any type of Holloway discussion that goes beyond reminding everyone of how tragic this is because she was "normal, pretty, nice, had a bright future ahead of her...."

[Alumiyum]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

Since Alumiyum keeps wanting to type to me....

It speaks on what some of us have been talking about for the past few pages. And, as I keep telling Alumiyum, this discussion isn't about her. It is a general observation. Surely she notices that she is not the only person who has expressed certain views in the past 5 or so pages.

I excepted myself since I know that in regards to this thread I have not been objective and therefore did not want to be included in the example/elaboration. I was asking for an elaboration on what it "speaks" to. I have not, in fact, noticed a trend towards people feeling somehow connected to the case in this thread, other than the expected "I feel sorry for her family".

You are correct. It is not about me. It never has been, so you can really stop repeating yourself. I'll be glad to keep take that job over and repeat:It. Is. Not. About. Me. I use "I" so that I do not run the risk of speaking for others.

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by Alumiyum

I have not, in fact, noticed a trend towards people feeling somehow connected to the case in this thread, other than the expected "I feel sorry for her family".

The bold shows that you're missing the point. This discussion isn't exclusive to those posting in this thread.

[Alumiyum]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

The bold shows that you're missing the point. This discussion isn't exclusive to those posting in this thread.

Obviously, I realize that. However were it a strong trend, surely it would be present here, too.

[Drolefille]

Quite frankly, no one can take it out on Natalie anymore. She is dead. Her family is not reading this and even if people were trying to blame her it would be stupid because she is deceased and either no longer exists or has more important things to be concerned with.

Many threads on GC deviate from the original topic within hours of posting much less 5 freaking years. The general topics are usually far more interesting and relevant anyway.

Suffice to say no one thinks it was NH's fault that she was a cute missing white girl and got all the attention. But pointing out the sociological reasons doesn't make us callous, just distant.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by DeltaZeta09

Reading through the threads, and how some of you responded to Alumiyum, it's embarrassing that you would associate yourselves with the Greek community.

This holier-than-thou "You are all embarrasments to the Greek community" tirade never comes off well, especially when it comes from a newbie who obviously hasn't read the thread carefully.

[Munchkin03]

Back to "missing white woman syndrome," it's pretty much the same social "phenomenon" in a different package. Today, I was reading about the early years of the AIDS crisis, when the media jumped on young, affluent white women like Ali Gertz and Kimberly Bergalis as "innocent" victims of the AIDS crisis.

I think some of it comes from the "...if it can happen to them, it can happen to anyone." Whether it's contracting a deadly disease or being kidnapped on vacation, it can always happen to anyone. I'm not sure how being male, or a person of color makes the risk of something bad happening more "acceptable" to mainstream Americans.

[KSig RC]

Originally Posted by Munchkin03

Back to "missing white woman syndrome," it's pretty much the same social "phenomenon" in a different package. Today, I was reading about the early years of the AIDS crisis, when the media jumped on young, affluent white women like Ali Gertz and Kimberly Bergalis as "innocent" victims of the AIDS crisis.

I think some of it comes from the "...if it can happen to them, it can happen to anyone." Whether it's contracting a deadly disease or being kidnapped on vacation, it can always happen to anyone. I'm not sure how being male, or a person of color makes the risk of something bad happening more "acceptable" to mainstream Americans.

Cognitive dissonance.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by KSig RC

Cognitive dissonance.

Amazing how many things we can lie to ourselves about as long as we're very diligent about not thinking about it.