Politics 2008:The Caucuses and The Dem/Rep Conventions

[Little32]

Wow PTA. Not to disparage those of you on the PTA, but that should not be used as a talking point for a VPOTUS candidate. It just shouldn't. *smh*

[Ten/Four]

CNN is reporting Palin's teenage daughter is pregnant: http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/09/...ter/index.html

This election gets interesting by the day.

[darling1]

the family values angle is being pushed here. i think that the republicans have made it very evident what their angle is going to be. even with pallin's baby momma drama, it will be spun in as positive a light as possible. if this were obama and one of their daughter's was prego at 17, they would want his head on a platter.

the fact that pallin is a woman with 5 children, not the atypical politician and therefore does not 'slick' talk like all lawyers do , this will appeal to a lot of blue collar folks and a lot of moms.

Originally Posted by jitterbug13

Yesterday, I was watching Face The Nation (missed Meet The Press) and I saw Bob Sheiffer (sp) talking to former NY Mayor Gulianni (sp). Gulianni was trying to defend McCain's choice of VP. He said that Palian is a good choice because she has had municipal experience and experience running state government. She may be a governor (there are more people in some major cities than Alaska) but running a city of less than 10,000 is different than running a city with millions of people.

I was watching NBC Nightly News last night and Brian Williams was interviewing McCain. He brought up on why he made his decision. He listed some of the things that Gulianni said, but also added that she has PTA leadership. Yes, PTA.

PTA was brought up again by Gov. Sanford (the governor of SC, where I live). He said that it was good seeing a PTA and soccer mom make this historic rise. Sanford was on the long list of VP canidates and he has been governor here six years, on top of the six years he was on in the US House.

PTA does not equal foreign policy experience. Is that the best explanation the Republicans got?

[jitterbug13]

It's ironic that you wrote this because now McCain's camp is saying the same thing about Palin:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080902/...palin_politics

I really think they are mad because the media and the people are questioning his decision and that we are not rolling over and accepting his decision.

[I.A.S.K.]

While I fully agree with Barack on the fact that family, especially children, should be left out of politics, it is becomming increasingly hard to ingnore Palin's family troubles.
My growing list of problems with Palin:
1. Her daughter is pregnant
2. Her daughter is also apparently a drinker. http://www.bossip.com/25563/booze-and-babies/
3. Her husband was (and might still be) a drinker who had a DUI.
4. She has a infant with a disability
5. Said infant appeared out of nowhere because Nobody saw Palin preggers. I dont even think Mr. Palin remembers a pregnancy
6. She has NO experience! (Her PTA experience is equal to my Dorm Council experience and student government experience in H/S. Shoot, I even did Model UN and was actually a delegate to a real UN Summit on Sustainable Development. Since I'm both black and female McCain should have picked me for VP. He could've killed two birds with one stone.)
7. She clearly cannot control her children and as such I highly doubt she can control our nation.
8. She governs Alaska! As Diddy so eloquently put it "I don't even think there's crackheads in Alaska"

Side note: I really think McCain begged C.Rice to be his VP. I'm sure she gave him a mean side-eye and a resounding NO! (and then told him she's voting for Obama) lol.

Also has anyone else ever noticed that when some pigmantly impaired newspeople do not like someone they mispronounce the person's name? Like O-Bama (as in Alabama) instead of Obama or "mistaking" Obama for Osama. Even O-Sam-Ah instead of Osama or Ben Loudin instead of Bin Laden. Sa-Damn instead of Sadam. So many people (the last two I have no bit of fondness for) that they don't like get their names mispronounced.

[mccoyred]

Originally Posted by I.A.S.K.

While I fully agree with Barack on the fact that family, especially children, should be left out of politics, it is becomming increasingly hard to ingnore Palin's family troubles.
My growing list of problems with Palin:
1. Her daughter is pregnant
2. Her daughter is also apparently a drinker. http://www.bossip.com/25563/booze-and-babies/
3. Her husband was (and might still be) a drinker who had a DUI.
4. She has a infant with a disability
5. Said infant appeared out of nowhere because Nobody saw Palin preggers. I dont even think Mr. Palin remembers a pregnancy
6. She has NO experience! (Her PTA experience is equal to my Dorm Council experience and student government experience in H/S. Shoot, I even did Model UN and was actually a delegate to a real UN Summit on Sustainable Development. Since I'm both black and female McCain should have picked me for VP. He could've killed two birds with one stone.)
7. She clearly cannot control her children and as such I highly doubt she can control our nation.
8. She governs Alaska! As Diddy so eloquently put it "I don't even think there's crackheads in Alaska"

Its funny that the Obama's have the model family life and Biden has overcome a great tragedy (he actually didn't remarry until after 'death did them part') and raised beautiful, successful children (one of his son's is the Delaware State Attorney General) for several years as a single father.

On the other hand, you have an admitted adulterer (possibly a polygamist) married to a recovering drug addict, a drunk and an (alleged) abuser of political power who are parents of a pregnant teenage daughter.......Family values???

[jitterbug13]

Originally Posted by mccoyred

Its funny that the Obama's have the model family life and Biden has overcome a great tragedy (he actually didn't remarry until after 'death did them part') and raised beautiful, successful children (one of his son's is the Delaware State Attorney General) for several years as a single father.

On the other hand, you have an admitted adulterer (possibly a polygamist) married to a recovering drug addict, a drunk and an (alleged) abuser of political power who are parents of a pregnant teenage daughter.......Family values???

Something like that was brought up in the news thread about that. And major cosign on this!

[BlessedOne04]

The problem with HRC supporters is that they have a problem with letting go. Its the equivalent to a pouting child who cannot have the candy they want so badly. If we are adults and you are for the good of the country then prove it. What is so hot about HRC platform? She was saying the stuff that would help her win the nomination, and some of her positions were conservative in my opinion. If the only advantage that she has was that she is a woman, then those supporters need to review whether this is a popularity contest or presidential campaign.

Basically there's no crying in baseball.

[delph998]

...Gulliani's keynote address was HORRIBLE! He was so busy bashing Obama and the Democratic party, that he couldn't even make his points. So scattered and disconnected.

[MsFoxyLoxy77]

I don't believe most of these so called Hillary supporters exist. I think they are Republicans masquerading as PUMA/Hillary supporters to stir up discontent and trouble. Half the Hillary supporters I've talked to say they're upset but they're voting for Obama.

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Okay I'm watching this Palin speech and she's got in some clever and catchy statements but I'm kind of distracted because she looks POSSESSED...her facial expressions: wide eyes, clenched jaws, scrunched nose etc. are all over the place...I'm waiting for her head to start spinning...

[Honeykiss1974]

Originally Posted by delph998

...Gulliani's keynote address was HORRIBLE! He was so busy bashing Obama and the Democratic party, that he couldn't even make his points. So scattered and disconnected.

I was watching Good Morning America this morning and Robin Roberts asked Biden what he thought of Gulliani's speech. Biden responded that he missed it due to traveling but asked Robin if he talked about 9/11 - because Guilliani's speeches are typically just a noun...a verb...and a reference to 9/11.

I LOL'd!

[jitterbug13]

^^^^
*applause* My mom said yesterday the ones who claim they have family values don't have them. They wouldn't know them if they bought it at Wal-Mart.

And our current president says Is-slam instead of Is-lam (Islam) so that doesn't surprise me at all.

[nikki1920]

i <3 this thread

[I.A.S.K.]

*one*
*T-t-two---nope false alarm*

^^^^^^^ This is me counting the number of people of color in the crowd at the Republican National Convention.
^^^^^^^ This is also me counting the number of people UNDER the age of I dont know, lets say about...ANCIENT in the crowd. (Okay, so that was a little harsh, but there was not a single person in there under the age of 35)


Did Palin and the Republicans have to Steal all of the Democrats ideas? The wack Palin signs remind me vaguely of those Michelle signs.

I will give you guys a recap of Palin's address in just a little while. It wont take me long to do it either because she really is not saying very much.

Is it just me or does her speech sound like: "You should vote for me as Governer of Alaska because..."

I cannot take you seriously as a candidate for VICE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA when any part of your speech includes the following:
1. "I love those hockey moms! The only difference between a hockey mom and a pittbul is lipstick." Really? That is such a feminist statement. GAL, youse shole is heppin' whimin!
2. The word VICTORY when talking about any war after World War II. Victory in Iraq is a figment of Republican's imaginations.
3. Basically the rest of her speech.

[nikki1920]

I caught the tail end and was NOT impressed. AT. ALL.