University of Mississippi (Ole Miss) 2012 Recruitment

[DubaiSis]

That's what I'm wondering. Is this hyperbole or in this big of a rush are there chapters at risk of closure or not meeting quota by a wide margin? I'm guessing it's much ado about nothing, but god knows I could be wrong.

[HQWest]

Having lived through recruitment at a school with January rush I can say it is NUTS. It does not lead anyone to having a more open mind. It did lead to more dirty rushing and the poor retention rates.

I have advised at schools with Before class recruitment, september weekend only recruitment and October recruitment. Women walk around in a daze for a couple weeks if they are trting to juggle both once classes start. The only reason for later fall recruitment is if you have trouble encouraging women to try being Greek. On these campuses with 100 women in a pledge class ?

[33girl]

Originally Posted by HQWest

Having lived through recruitment at a school with January rush I can say it is NUTS. It does not lead anyone to having a more open mind. It did lead to more dirty rushing and the poor retention rates.

And again, I say...that means you're doing it wrong. If non-Greek women are "sheltered" from talking to, socializing, rooming with, etc Greek women for that fall semester, it doesn't help at all with what the point of deferred rush is. The ideal deferred rush is one where a woman walks into the chapters and knows, at least in passing, at least one woman in every one of them. If Greeks are intent on separating themselves from non-Greeks of all class levels, deferred rush will never work.

[MaryPoppins]

@IndianaSigKap & IUHossiergirl88 How long ago were those double recruitments?

[IUHoosiergirl88]

Originally Posted by MaryPoppins

@IndianaSigKap & IUHossiergirl88 How long ago were those double recruitments?

Since we have deferred recruitment I'll speak in terms of school years...she left at the end of the '08-'09 school year and joined the UK chapter fall of '09

[MaryPoppins]

Originally Posted by IUHoosiergirl88

Since we have deferred recruitment I'll speak in terms of school years...she left at the end of the '08-'09 school year and joined the UK chapter fall of '09

So she went somewhere that sophomores are routine in NM classes? That would make sense.

[TSteven]

Originally Posted by IUHoosiergirl88

Since we have deferred recruitment I'll speak in terms of school years...she left at the end of the '08-'09 school year and joined the UK chapter fall of '09

Originally Posted by MaryPoppins

So she went somewhere that sophomores are routine in NM classes? That would make sense.

Don't know if this makes a difference but my understanding is that UK has a junior quota. Or maybe it is an upperclassman quota that includes sophomores.

[IndianaSigKap]

Originally Posted by MaryPoppins

@IndianaSigKap & IUHossiergirl88 How long ago were those double recruitments?

My girl went through SEC recruitment at the beginning of the 2010-2011 school year. If she had not gotten one of her choices, she would have transferred immediately and then participated in another recruitment less than two weeks later at her new school.

[Hartofsec]

Originally Posted by IndianaSigKap

My girl went through SEC recruitment at the beginning of the 2010-2011 school year. If she had not gotten one of her choices, she would have transferred immediately and then participated in another recruitment less than two weeks later at her new school.

I’ve heard of this happening before – but I’ve always thought it was more folklore than something that commonly occurs.

It seems logistically unlikely – in the time frame of two weeks or less – that one could apply to another school, submit all paperwork necessary for admission (official transcripts, etc), receive acceptance, make housing arrangements (dorm assignments, roommates, etc), attend advising and register for classes, register for recruitment, have alums submit recs necessary for recruitment to the chapters at the new school, move out of current location, and move into new location.

Not to mention the futility of the effort, if even logistically possible. With smartphones and social media, a recruitment shell game would most certainly be noticed (the alums asked to submit recs again would notice as well). And anyway, how would a PNM's prospects for joining the chapter of her choice improve in two weeks for recruitment somewhere else?

I wouldn’t be surprised if some disappointed girls eventually transferred to other schools and tried again, or even withdrew following recruitment. However, I would think this happens to some degree on any campus strongly influenced by the Greek system, regardless of when recruitment is held.

[IndianaSigKap]

Originally Posted by Hartofsec

I’ve heard of this happening before – but I’ve always thought it was more folklore than something that commonly occurs.

It seems logistically unlikely – in the time frame of two weeks or less – that one could apply to another school, submit all paperwork necessary for admission (official transcripts, etc), receive acceptance, make housing arrangements (dorm assignments, roommates, etc), attend advising and register for classes, register for recruitment, have alums submit recs necessary for recruitment to the chapters at the new school, move out of current location, and move into new location.

As I said earlier, it was a logistical effort. That's for sure. First, I agree situations like this are the exceptions, not the rule. She was accepted to both schools. She made housing arrangements at the first choice school and signed up for recruitment. IF she had not been happy with her recruitment results, she would have broken the housing contract at the first school, enrolled at the second school, found a sublease for an apartment at second school and signed up for recruitment at the second school which does not get underway until after the first week of classes. I should, also, include that money is no object in regard to what the children in this family want. I am not sure how it would have worked out, but luckily she did not have to find out.

[htoddymom]

Had to chime in for just a minute because I almost thought I had happened upon Greekrank instead of Greek Chat when I read about only 2-3 chapters being desirable. All a PNM needs to do is take a journey on facebook or the internet and see that on bid day last year there were over 130 girls smiling ear to ear "throwing what ya know" in all 9 chapters not just 2-3! As a matter of fact just a little research on here will show that everyone got quota and several chapters got quota additions and upperclassmen that put them above these legacy ladden "desirable "few. I didn't see a crying girl in the bunch. I truly understand that girls naturally want to be a part of the sorority that an older girl from their hometown is in if they really like that girl. It can be so exciting for both girls and lead to situations like TNvol was talking about. But a girl who only wants to be in a sorority because she has heard they are the most desirable from tent talk is the one I feel sorry for. It seems those girls usually are disillusioned when they get in the house because they only care about the letters not the girls who will be their sisters. Or actually, maybe that is where they will fit the best if they are that narrow-minded going in. I would love to hear what "desirability" is based on. Pretty girls? Nope just one glance on Facebook shows that is in all 9. Swaps with the top fraternities? Nope that is more than just 2-3. Pretty house? Nope they are all gorgeous at Ole Miss. Campus involvement? Nope check the Panhellenic website these "desirable " elite haven't won the Chancellor Cup in years. Philan.? Nope they all have excellent charity choices. Better Sisterhood? Nope I venture to say ask any member of any of the 9 chapters and they love their sisters and are PROUD of their chapter. Being the chapter your Mom was in somewhere 25 years ago? I guess that must be it! A wise PNM would go through rush and realize that they will determine what they make of wherever they end up but that is hard to tell 18 years olds. Having been on both sides of Rush with girls at both Ole Miss and Arkansas the past 3 years it is really interesting how it plays out each year.

[Hartofsec]

Originally Posted by IndianaSigKap

As I said earlier, it was a logistical effort. That's for sure. First, I agree situations like this are the exceptions, not the rule. She was accepted to both schools. She made housing arrangements at the first choice school and signed up for recruitment. IF she had not been happy with her recruitment results, she would have broken the housing contract at the first school, enrolled at the second school, found a sublease for an apartment at second school and signed up for recruitment at the second school which does not get underway until after the first week of classes. I should, also, include that money is no object in regard to what the children in this family want. I am not sure how it would have worked out, but luckily she did not have to find out.

That is quite a stunt (my apologies -- I did see later where you explained this girl's plan)!

I gotta say though -- asking alums for double recs based on that plan is pretty bold!

[MaryPoppins]

By the way, Ice Water Parties are tomorrow at Ole Miss. Some words to the wise, just in case you want to review.

Rush - What to NOT do or say
http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...ad.php?t=30758

Most Important Words of Advice
http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...d.php?t=127748

General Advice
http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...ad.php?t=54403

[Titchou]

That's not uncommon. But at Ole Miss they were withdrawing after recruitment and registering elsewhere in time for the second recruitment as freshmen in the fall. Entirely different thing. So they were rushing at Ole Miss one week and somewhere else two weeks later.

[MaryPoppins]

Originally Posted by Titchou

That's not uncommon. But at Ole Miss they were withdrawing after recruitment and registering elsewhere in time for the second recruitment as freshmen in the fall. Entirely different thing. So they were rushing at Ole Miss one week and somewhere else two weeks later.

And that always just blew my mind.