Tiers in The SEC

[macallan25]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

It is very interesting that a discussion of tiers in the SEC has turned into tiers of drug users and addicts.

Society ranks users and addicts like that, too.

But I don't. They're all low level human beings (ok, that's kinda harsh, but still...) with a problem. Regardless of how much they spent for their habit, who they are, and what they do.

We posted a couple responses stating what the prices were for some blow......because someone asked.

I could tell you how much just about every drug costs down here.........doesn't mean I do them all

[macallan25]

Originally Posted by nittanyalum

Yeah, this makes me sad.

Why?

Does it make you sad when people drink?

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by macallan25

We posted a couple responses stating what the prices were for some blow......because someone asked.

I could tell you how much just about every drug costs down here.........doesn't mean I do them all

Uh...go away...your posts were "interesting," too, but I wasn't talking about your price analysis.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by macallan25

Why?

Does it make you sad when people drink?

You're confusing which posts I'm talking about. But that's okay because the point I'm making is not up for debate.

[Elephant Walk]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

Uh...go away....

Says the girl in the fraternity thread. Although given your amount of replies in these threads, I question your sex as well. Is DST a fraternity?

I applaud you on your effort of moralizing and hijacking thread. Although it's pretty typical from you. The cocaine had to do with SEC Greek life, your moralizing, class obsession, and otherwise did not.

Please leave.

[nittanyalum]

Originally Posted by macallan25

Why?

Does it make you sad when people drink?

Depending on the circumstances, it might.

But you don't really put drinking on par with cocaine (or other drug) use, do you?

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by Elephant Walk

Says the woman in the GC thread, that anyone can read, which has hijacked into a topic that anyone can chime in if they damn well please.

Fixed that for you.

What next?

Oh yeah, I was teasing macallan as I sometimes do so I edited my post to reflect that. Put your cape away, k?

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by nittanyalum

Depending on the circumstances, it might.

But you don't really put drinking on par with cocaine (or other drug) use, do you?

Alcohol abuse is on par with drug abuse. Alcohol possession and use was only on par with drug possession and use in the 1920s prohibition movement.

[EE-BO]

Originally Posted by Lucky SC

well i almost expect marijuana to be present either in the open or behind closed door in any fraternity these days, really just the way it is. But you would be surprised at how openly cocaine is present these days.

I don't like to associate with something known for being a "coke fraternity". Because i def know of a couple of those types on dif campuses

Every fraternity has pot smokers, but when I was an active- and to this day- it is not tolerated in our house. You just can't have that.

Cocaine was not really a big thing when I was in college, but seems to be moreso now.

I have never cared for hard drugs, nor even tried any of them. So I am sure things go on that I never knew about. But even then, back in my time I think hard drug use was not a major staple of any fraternity's existence. Sure I knew some, but it seems much more common now.

I could care less if people want to use them discreetly or away from my living space- but with the benefit of age and experience I have known too many "fratstars" who thought they could quit when they graduated or at least keep it under control, and were proven fatally wrong. Even if one survives it, a coke habit and all the trappings that come with it can blow through even a pretty good sized trust fund in a hurry.

[nittanyalum]

I understand abuse is abuse. But I'm talking about even just recreational use here. Macallan seemed to imply that I should get as upset about someone drinking as I would about someone doing cocaine (again, I assume we're talking "recreationally").

ETA: This post was in response to DSTChaos, but I want to note that I also very much agree with EE-BO's last paragraph -- this is what my base concern is.

[macallan25]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

You're confusing which posts I'm talking about. But that's okay because the point I'm making is not up for debate.

Oh ok, I understand now. I was kind of confused there for a second.

[macallan25]

Originally Posted by nittanyalum

I understand abuse is abuse. But I'm talking about even just recreational use here. Macallan seemed to imply that I should get as upset about someone drinking as I would about someone doing cocaine (again, I assume we're talking "recreationally").

ETA: This post was in response to DSTChaos, but I want to note that I also very much agree with EE-BO's last paragraph -- this is what my base concern is.

No no, I wasn't saying you should feel that way.....I was just throwing it out there to see how you would respond.

In some past experiences I have been around some raging, fall down drunks (not that you are one haha) talk about how sad and deplorable it is for people to do hard drugs, smoke a little grass, etc. It always makes me shake my head and laugh.

Yeah though, recreational drinking, I think, is a little different than recreational use of drugs like cocaine. Two different animals, for sure.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by nittanyalum

I understand abuse is abuse. But I'm talking about even just recreational use here. Macallan seemed to imply that I should get as upset about someone drinking as I would about someone doing cocaine (again, I assume we're talking "recreationally").

[I don't know if we disagree here or are even talking about what my initial post was talking about. But here goes just for clarity. ]

I don't believe in a recreational use of illegal substances. They are illegal for a reason (whatever the different reasons are, the law has spoken).

You already get the point about alcohol: If recreational alcohol use includes irresponsibility and regular binge drinking, it has similar effects as getting high on drugs. But if the person is over 21, it isn't a legal issue unless there is a law being broken.

But none of these truly compare to the most deadly legal substance: CIGARETTES. BAN THEEEE TO HELL!!!!

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by macallan25

Oh ok, I understand now. I was kind of confused there for a second.

Now, if you believe in ranking drugs and drug users based on prestige or class, my post was also about you. But I didn't gather that from your cost posts.

You should work for the DEA, btw.

[Elephant Walk]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

I don't believe in a recreational use of illegal substances. They are illegal for a reason (whatever the different reasons are, the law has spoken).

Now you're defending racism? Excellent. The law also spoke on Jim Crow and so forth for awhile.

Drugs have become illegal because of racism and prejudice. Opium was associated with the "dangerous" Chinese immigrants. Marijuana with the Mexicans. The first laws against Marijuana in the United States (there were many laws FOR marijuana up to then) was in 1910 in Utah (I believe) in fear of the Mexicans. Cocaine was associated with the black subcultures, more specifically the Jazz scene which caused them to be illegal. Mushrooms, Acid, etc were out of fear for the hippies and the possibility of an oncoming revolution. It's not until much more recently have we began trying to protect people...I think the 1970's was the first time you could make a case perhaps.

Either way, none of this has anything to do with SEC tiers.

Coke is prevalent in my chapter as well as many of the Arkansas houses.