Mississippi Sorority Recruitment 2015

[thetalady]

Originally Posted by jane9

I'm an Ole Miss alumna. Had a few friends with daughters who went through. All fantastic women, with several legacies, who knew active members, etc. I normally just lurk here but had to come out to laugh at the idea that the "number of girls dropping out is in part to look at Alpha Phi". Girl, please. From the few stories I heard the tent talk sounded horrendous. It's always been there but I think I'm just floored at the viciousness of it. Many girls dropped out in favor of being GDI rather than pledge XYZ house.

You were "floored at the viciousness of it" but here you are, spreading the ugliness yourself.

[DubaiSis]

The huge number of dropouts? Did I miss something between massive drop outs at a school with not realm of enough chapters and pledge classes of 150+? I wouldn't spend one second worrying about the number of girls who are too precious to accept anything except the 1 or 2 chapters they deemed worthy. And FYI, Alpha Phi are pros at colonizations and reading between the lines. Those princesses are NOT shoo ins to the colony.

[jolene]

Originally Posted by DubaiSis

The huge number of dropouts? Did I miss something between massive drop outs at a school with not realm of enough chapters and pledge classes of 150+? I wouldn't spend one second worrying about the number of girls who are too precious to accept anything except the 1 or 2 chapters they deemed worthy. And FYI, Alpha Phi are pros at colonizations and reading between the lines. Those princesses are NOT shoo ins to the colony.

Those special snowflakes will missing out on a great opportunity to be part of something fabulous--the Ole Miss Greek system and an old and treasured sisterhood. Sort of sounds like those girls who got cut from the Alpha Xi colony rush process and got bitter and starting crap on GR.

[thetalady]

Originally Posted by jolene

Those special snowflakes will missing out on a great opportunity to be part of something fabulous--the Ole Miss Greek system and an old and treasured sisterhood. Sort of sounds like those girls who got cut from the Alpha Xi colony rush process and got bitter and starting crap on GR.

Alpha Xi is not colonizing. Alpha Phi is. They have not even started their rush yet, just preliminary interviews.

[AZTheta]

Originally Posted by jane9

I'm an Ole Miss alumna. Had a few friends with daughters who went through. All fantastic women, with several legacies, who knew active members, etc. I normally just lurk here but had to come out to laugh at the idea that the "number of girls dropping out is in part to look at Alpha Phi". Girl, please. From the few stories I heard the tent talk sounded horrendous. It's always been there but I think I'm just floored at the viciousness of it. Many girls dropped out in favor of being GDI rather than pledge XYZ house.

The stories I've heard from this year make me extremely sad. I have a niece who will be a freshman next year and no way in hell would I let her go to Ole Miss let alone go through Ole Miss rush.

Sorry to be Debbie Downer, just can't stop shaking my head. That's not to say I think greek life is bad in general or at Ole Miss. I think many women wind up with great memories. But the process is beyond messed up (in my eyes) at this school.

Oh my.

I disagree with you. It's not the process, it's the entire culture, perpetuated by alumnae and actives alike. Frankly, my dear...

[jane9]

Originally Posted by AZTheta

Oh my.

I disagree with you. It's not the process, it's the entire culture, perpetuated by alumnae and actives alike. Frankly, my dear...

Y'all. Take a deep breath. I do not support "special snowflakes" dropping out or being "too good" to pledge any house.

Agree that the process is the entire culture. I'm not really sure why y'all think I'm spreading rumors. These are actual stories that have been relayed to me.

That's great that Alpha Phi are pros at colonization. I honestly think its great that there will be more houses on campus. My comment about people dropping out in order to look at Alpha Phi wasn't a dig at Alpha Phi (although I understand how it could have been taken that way). It was more that the stories I heard --and yes my sample size is small, was that several PNM's were so discouraged by recruitment that they felt it was best for them to drop out of the system. Not because they are "too good" for XYZ house but because they don't want to be a part of a system that they were shown.

Whatever. Have fun.

[AZTheta]

Originally Posted by jane9

Y'all. Take a deep breath. I do not support "special snowflakes" dropping out or being "too good" to pledge any house.

Agree that the process is the entire culture. I'm not really sure why y'all think I'm spreading rumors. These are actual stories that have been relayed to me.

That's great that Alpha Phi are pros at colonization. I honestly think its great that there will be more houses on campus. My comment about people dropping out in order to look at Alpha Phi wasn't a dig at Alpha Phi (although I understand how it could have been taken that way). It was more that the stories I heard --and yes my sample size is small, was that several PNM's were so discouraged by recruitment that they felt it was best for them to drop out of the system. Not because they are "too good" for XYZ house but because they don't want to be a part of a system that they were shown.

Whatever. Have fun.

Previously you stated "Many girls dropped out in favor of being GDI rather than pledge XYZ house."

It's a little bit late to backtrack.

Whatever right back at you. I believe the expression is "bless your heart".

[jane9]

Originally Posted by AZTheta

Previously you stated "Many girls dropped out in favor of being GDI rather than pledge XYZ house."

It's a little bit late to backtrack.

Whatever right back at you. I believe the expression is "bless your heart".

Seriously. Thank you. I am a better person now.

[Pplam]

Jane9, I understood all your posts and agree 100%. My daughter just finished her first rush as an active. Some of the stories she's shared with me are so upsetting. She mentioned that some chapters increased their gpa requirements which caused greater cuts. From the outside, we can't relate to the pressure placed on these PNMs. There are huge numbers of girls going thru a very competitive rush, combined with the viciousness of social media and tent talk. It is brutal! But I do know of several schools where rush is even more brutal than Ole Miss (IU and Texas.) My daughter feels that A Phi is going to have a great colonization. So that is good to hear!

[OleMissGlitter]

My rec girls this year at Ole Miss pledged.....
2 AOII and 3 KD!

The current sorority houses sleep anywhere from 41 women to 90 women.

I think everyone did great this year and I've heard nothing but wonderful things about Alpha Phi's colonization! I can't wait to see what their house is going to look like. ADPi's house is spectacular!

[MU2Driver]

What exactly is "brutal" or "vicious" about Ole Miss or any other school's FR? It's a process by which (in this case) 1800 PNMs are rapidly sorted into 10 groups through mutual selection. I am not aware of anything the chapters do to make the process more stressful than it has to be; I certainly don't put raising high school GPA requirements into that category.
I agree that tent talk and rumors are a bad thing, but that comes from the PNM/moms side, not the chapters. To the contrary, with the advent of RFM, the "system" is doing everything it can to find everyone a home and nearly every girl who meets the minimum requirements, keeps an open mind (PNM tunnel vision is the real problem) and works within the system, i.e. maximizes options, does so.
I have seen many Bid Days at Ole Miss and the vast majority of NMs are experiencing pure joy. And, most of the few that aren't quickly learn to love the house they join.

[KDCat]

Originally Posted by jane9

Y'all. Take a deep breath. I do not support "special snowflakes" dropping out or being "too good" to pledge any house.

Agree that the process is the entire culture. I'm not really sure why y'all think I'm spreading rumors. These are actual stories that have been relayed to me.

That's great that Alpha Phi are pros at colonization. I honestly think its great that there will be more houses on campus. My comment about people dropping out in order to look at Alpha Phi wasn't a dig at Alpha Phi (although I understand how it could have been taken that way). It was more that the stories I heard --and yes my sample size is small, was that several PNM's were so discouraged by recruitment that they felt it was best for them to drop out of the system. Not because they are "too good" for XYZ house but because they don't want to be a part of a system that they were shown.

Whatever. Have fun.

LOL

That is the textbook definition of gossip and tent talk. You didn't talk to all (any?) of those PNMs personally. You don't know why they dropped or what their intent is. You are repeating stories that someone else told you about what those PNMs did and why.

It's straight up gossip. It adds to the culture that you are decrying. Don't do that.

[Hartofsec]

Originally Posted by jane9

I normally just lurk here but had to come out to laugh at the idea that the "number of girls dropping out is in part to look at Alpha Phi". Girl, please.

Don't have any Ole Miss stats, but when Alpha Phi colonized at Bama, there was an unusual number of withdrawals during recruitment -- more than any since 2003 and even since that time with higher PNM numbers every year.

Probably many of those who withdrew did intend to pursue the colonization -- and many apparently did so. Around 75% of Alpha Phi's new members had participated in formal recruitment. Stats:

http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums...9&postcount=42

For one thing, I wouldn't be surprised if many upperclassmen withdrew during the process, especially since Ole Miss does not have an upperclassmen quota.

No doubt that tent talk can take a toll. It's difficult to feel bad for those girls who approached the process with an "XYZ or bust" attitude or let tent talk guide their decisions, but perhaps some will become wiser and reconsider their decision not to participate in Greek life at Ole Miss.

[Just interested]

I assume KD pledged quota but I don't know how many. I just know they pledged 14 Texas girls which makes me happy.

[Just interested]

I always help out when I can, but my "quick" to reply Ole Miss contact doesn't know the number. She said, "I think everyone got over 150 and we got 14 Texas girls" So sorry, I would help if I could.