Miss Universe 2006

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by kddani

God forbid a contestant give an answer that's not all happiness and sunshine and puppy dogs, or one that sounds intelligent. Seems the perkier and happier the answer, the higher the score.

Look at who the judges were... they're all random celebrities and the majority of them have no pageant experience. TOM GREEN was a judge. What can you expect?

No, I understand that, but I was saying something more along the lines of what jillybean said above. Miss Japan isn't going to say the Holocaust... to her Nagasaki and Hiroshima were worse disasters. But they were the agressors in that war thus making her answer seem, to Americans, arrogant and Asia-centric...

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by KLPDaisy

The concentration camps in the US during WWII were not like the ones in Germany. Yes the Japanese were forced to live there, and yes, some people did get killed, but with regard to the conditions in them, you can't compare the two.

Ok that was just creepy.

[AlphaFrog]

Originally Posted by kddani

Of course, that's a little to real life for a pageant.

Exactly. It's a pagent, not a NATO meeting.

[ASUADPi]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

But if she's going to be honest, wouldn't she say the bombing of Japan and the American control of it? I think she may have avoided the question because her real answer would not be acceptable to the judges (or another answer would be too Eastern-Centric to appeal to Western judges.

She still could have answered the question honestly. She could have said "I feel the worst act in the last 100 years was the atom bomb on Hiroshima". End of story. She doesn't have to start going into detail saying "The worst act in the last 100 years was the atom bomb on Hiroshima which was done deliberately by the United States of America". Obviously that answer wouldn't be PC. These women are trained to give PC answers.

Again, her answer was crap and had nothing to do with the question.

Originally Posted by kddani

Look at who the judges were... they're all random celebrities and the majority of them have no pageant experience. TOM GREEN was a judge. What can you expect?

So very true!

Originally Posted by kddani

I honestly think that asking serious, difficult to answer/touchy subject matter questions would really be a good test for something like this. If you're going to be a spokeswoman, you've gotta be able to react and handle difficult and unexpected questions delicately.

I totally agree. If the pageant people don't want her to be a spokesperson, don't do the "interview" portion in the first place. Make them stand around, sign autographs and "look pretty". If you're going to give a difficult question, I'm sorry you should expect a "difficult" answer, not ones with sunshines and rainbows.



What I'm thinking now is that they give these difficult questions to see how the contestants with "blow them off" and "change the subject" and the ones who don't get scored lower, because OMG they actually answered the question.

[LouisaMay]

Originally Posted by ariesrising

I'd prefer to see, I don't know, real pageant judges from various countries. Being that it is a "Universe" competition.

Like figure skating. Can you imagine the uproar if every Olympic event was judged by a panel of people from the host nation? AND the judges had no experience in the sport?

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by ASUADPi

She still could have answered the question honestly. She could have said "I feel the worst act in the last 100 years was the atom bomb on Hiroshima". End of story. She doesn't have to start going into detail saying "The worst act in the last 100 years was the atom bomb on Hiroshima which was done deliberately by the United States of America". Obviously that answer wouldn't be PC. These women are trained to give PC answers.

Again, her answer was crap and had nothing to do with the question.



So very true!




I totally agree. If the pageant people don't want her to be a spokesperson, don't do the "interview" portion in the first place. Make them stand around, sign autographs and "look pretty". If you're going to give a difficult question, I'm sorry you should expect a "difficult" answer, not ones with sunshines and rainbows.



What I'm thinking now is that they give these difficult questions to see how the contestants with "blow them off" and "change the subject" and the ones who don't get scored lower, because OMG they actually answered the question.

Miss Universe gives you very little credit for your interview to begin with. I don't know what the percentage is, but it's very low.

[AlphaFrog]

If it's like Miss USA, the interview is worth 10%, I believe.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by AlphaFrog

If it's like Miss USA, the interview is worth 10%, I believe.

Yeah, it's the same pageant system.

[valkyrie]

Originally Posted by ASUADPi

But wasn't it Miss Japan who was given a question about (and I'm totally paraphrasing b/c I don't remember the exact question) what the worst thing to happen in the last like 100 years was? If it wasn't her, whoever it was, her answer, albeit true, was crap. She went off saying that men have more "power" than women, blah, blah, blah. I'M SORRY that is not the WORST thing to happen in the past 100 years.

Talk about the Holocaust. That is one of the worst things that has happened in the last 100 years (in my personal opinion), not that men have more "power" than women.

Wait, what?!

[Jimmy Choo]

Originally Posted by ASUADPi

But wasn't it Miss Japan who was given a question about (and I'm totally paraphrasing b/c I don't remember the exact question) what the worst thing to happen in the last like 100 years was? If it wasn't her, whoever it was, her answer, albeit true, was crap. She went off saying that men have more "power" than women, blah, blah, blah. I'M SORRY that is not the WORST thing to happen in the past 100 years.

The answer actually made some sense when you consider some aspects of Japanese culture. This is not per se the case as much today but Japan has been a very male-dominated country where it was not uncommon for the woman to have to walk in back of her man at all times. She probably saw a lot of that growing up. To her that was one of the worst things. Remember they did ask her for her perspective.

[Jimmy Choo]

Originally Posted by AlphaFrog

If it's like Miss USA, the interview is worth 10%, I believe.

I wonder then if they have changed the scoring b/c when I competed since there were three parts to the competition each had equal weight. So the interview should have counted for 1/3 of the score.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by ecupidelta

I wonder then if they have changed the scoring b/c when I competed since there were three parts to the competition each had equal weight. So the interview should have counted for 1/3 of the score.

I believe they have, there was some discussion about it at the time and before this year's pageant.

My sister (sorority) does the Miss America prelims and dislikes Miss USA for that reason.

I'm looking for details

[Jimmy Choo]

The scoring system is not listed (or at least I can't find it) on either the Miss Universe or Miss USA websites. But if you look at the individual state websites it will list the judging system used. The prelims still give an equal weight to all three levels of competition. I happened to the Missouri website and it explained it pretty easily.

http://www.missmissouriusa.com/2006pageantinfo.html

The judging system is going to be the same from the state level all the way up to Miss Universe b/c they are all the same company.

[Jimmy Choo]

Here is the link for Miss America scoring

http://www.missamerica.org/news/nati...ng-process.asp

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by ecupidelta

Here is the link for Miss America scoring

http://www.missamerica.org/news/nati...ng-process.asp

I wish I could find what I read though

Perhaps it's simply that looks are 66 percent and interview is 33
as compared to Miss America where all looks are 35% and Talent, interview, etc. is the rest.
*shrug*