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Old 03-24-2005, 01:11 PM
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I'm just shocked they aren't being put on social probation. People have been put on social probation for a lot less! Is Wash U punishing the individual members or just the chapter? hahaha how do you know more than me when this is my school?
Haha... it's my spring break so my life since last Friday has consisted of watching lots of movies and the news... and posting on GC!

From what I understand, WashU is punishing the individual members of Alpha Phi who are responsible. In addition, "Karin Johnes, with the Greek Life office at Washington University, says Alpha Phi will be monitored to make sure it follows it's own sanctions." (That's from KSDK's website.)

I'll be happy if they are not put on social probation. I believe people should be accountable for their actions, but I don't believe people should be held accountable for the actions of others. Just to throw an example out... let's say 15 women from my chapter caused a scene at our formal. (Which has not and will not happen... because Sapphire Ball already went off without a hitch two weeks ago... ) But if the actions of those women caused my whole chapter to go on social probation, there would still be more than 200 women completely innocent of any wrongdoing that are facing the same punishment of those who are at fault.

I mean... it just seems like we're always saying that when one chapter ANYWHERE makes the news, it effects Greeks everywhere and suddenly we're all defending ourselves. But the reality is that it only takes one member of one chapter to effect all of us.

If a chapter gets in trouble and has to do, say, 100 hours of community service... that's nothing. If the five people who are responsible for getting the chapter in trouble have to complete those 100 hours by themselves... that makes more sense to me. I guess I just feel like punishing everyone takes away from the actual root of the problem. If those at fault are facing the same consequences as those who aren't... what kind of message is sent?
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