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Old 10-23-2004, 01:43 AM
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Originally posted by ladygreek
Hadn't read all of this before. But since my grandfather was a Sigma, a PHA Mason, and a PhD, I feel compelled to respond.


I have--a lot.


I have seen many shows won by Sigmas before the current gimmicks came into place. They have always been tight steppers.


And???? skee wee and eee-yip have the same cadence, too.


Used to see it. Pulled in tightly it resembles a Z, thus I assumed the greeting to the Zetas.


In my day all of the frats became dogs during Hell Week. And were referred to as such by the Big Brothers.


I love ya Bruh, but why all the hate?
Sorry to come across as a know it all. I am not and I will defer to your greater greek longevity. I have no problem with that. Being that your grandfather was a Sigma, that is some real history there. I cannot argue with your statements. I love to expand my knowledge. However what you have stated does not coincide with much of what I have garnered from elder greeks of each org, nor from my personal experience. To wit:

My Grandfather was a Master Mason as our my 8 uncles. My grandfather served in a unit in France under my founder, Bishop Love. I even have two Zeta aunts who pldged in the early 50's.

Maybe where you are from, you have seen the "cane" thing in the time frame between '70 - '90. I never witnessed it, nor does anyone I have queried, including a Sigma co-worker ('69 Albany St HBCU). But again, its not a real concern of mine. Its just the confusion that ensues when something is claimed by one org when it is not a universal truth even amongst that org.

Depending on where one is from I guess that Sigmas could have dominated then as they do now in stepping. Again, with the exception of NY/NJ, I do not ever recall firsthand or hearing anything about Sigma being the predominate steppers. Maybe I travelled in the wrong circles or went to the wrong homecomings.

As far as the cadence thing goes, all the other Frats manage to be dissimilar, maybe that is just a coincidence.

Ok, when pulled in tightly, it can resemble a Z. With that stretch of the imagination, we can count that as something that indicates a kinship with the Sigmas?

I will again defer to you per your seniority, but I have seen my friends during the hell week portion of their respective pledge programs go from sphinxmen to apes, scrollers to barbarians, crescents to dogs, and my own experience as a lampado to a dog. Maybe the others changed their traditons.

Why the hate? I don't hate anyone, too adult and too Christian for that. But I despise misinformation. I despise the misappropriation of my Fraternal culture and history and I pledged too long and too hard for MINE only to see any old body decide that "hey, that is better than what I have so if it aint copywritten, I claim it for myself". As someone who trains younger Omegas to be true Omegas and not just Que Dawgs, I cannot get angry with them when they take offense to Sigmas "hopping" to Atomic Dog, throwing up the hooks, barking, etc. There is a lot more to it that is not suited to this forum, but suffice it to say, none of the other Frats have a problem being who they are and maintaing their lane.
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