There is a new Almay one I bought, and it seems to be working weel for me, and I am an eyeliner klutz. It's "The Amazing Lasting 16 Hour Eye Pencil", and a twist up. I have never been able to use the pencils ever, feels like I am poking myself in my eye through my eyelid. I have also had decent results with "Physician's Formula Eye Definer".
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