Brooklyn Nets

Rudey · #1 01-22-2004, 02:07 PM

Wooo wooo

-Rudey

#2 01-22-2004, 02:12 PM

Doesn't matter if they're the Providence Nets,

they're still owned by the Spurs.

Kitso
KS 361

PhiPsiRuss · #3 01-22-2004, 02:38 PM

And the Spurs are owned by a Phi Psi.

The Suns too.

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Originally posted by AggieSigmaNu361
Doesn't matter if they're the Providence Nets,

they're still owned by the Spurs.

Kitso
KS 361

PhiPsiRuss · #4 01-22-2004, 02:45 PM

But getting back to Brooklyn business, the developer who is buying the team, is partly responsible for turning Downtown Brooklyn over the last 25 years. MetroTech was largely developed by his company, and the Brooklyn Nets (if the deal is closed) will play in an arena noty too far from there (a 10 minute walk.)

Ironically, the proposed new arena will be built on the site, proposed by Walter O'Malley (may he burn in hell for all of eternity,) for the Brooklyn Dodgers.

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Originally posted by Rudey
Wooo wooo

-Rudey

FeeFee · #5 01-22-2004, 02:58 PM

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Originally posted by russellwarshay
But getting back to Brooklyn business, the developer who is buying the team, is partly responsible for turning Downtown Brooklyn over the last 25 years. MetroTech was largely developed by his company, and the Brooklyn Nets (if the deal is closed) will play in an arena noty too far from there (a 10 minute walk.)

Ironically, the proposed new arena will be built on the site, proposed by Walter O'Malley (may he burn in hell for all of eternity,) for the Brooklyn Dodgers.

I was watching "Good Day New York" this morning (around 6) and they showed some folks who are actually against the building of the stadium. What is your take/opinion on the whole thing? I'm just curious as to what NYers are thinking.

BTW - I grew up a few blocks away from MetroTech. I still remember when it was first being built and the stores on Myrtle Ave had to close or relocate.

PhiPsiRuss · #6 01-22-2004, 03:03 PM

I've read about some of the people who oppose it, and why. I have not read enough about the proposed plan, and the criticisms to really weigh in on the debate.

From what I can gather, the opponents of the plan are worried that the new development will tear at the fabric of a neighborhood that has built itself up. This is a valid criticism. What I would like to see is, what buildings will be condemned, and what will be built in its place. Then I would be able to form a solid opinion.

FeeFee, have you been back to the MetroTech lately? I like the development, but I'm also not familiar with what was there before.

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Originally posted by FeeFee
I was watching "Good Day New York" this morning (around 6) and they showed some folks who are actually against the building of the stadium. What is your take/opinion on the whole thing? I'm just curious as to what NYers are thinking.

BTW - I grew up a few blocks away from MetroTech. I still remember when it was first being built and the stores on Myrtle Ave had to close or relocate.

FeeFee · #7 01-22-2004, 03:37 PM

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Originally posted by russellwarshay
I've read about some of the people who oppose it, and why. I have not read enough about the proposed plan, and the criticisms to really weigh in on the debate.

From what I can gather, the opponents of the plan are worried that the new development will tear at the fabric of a neighborhood that has built itself up. This is a valid criticism. What I would like to see is, what buildings will be condemned, and what will be built in its place. Then I would be able to form a solid opinion.

FeeFee, have you been back to the MetroTech lately? I like the development, but I'm also not familiar with what was there before.

They've managed to build up another building or two (my friend's job just relocated there recently). Some sections of NYPD and FDNY are there as well. My mom still lives in the neighborhood and works in the MetroTech area. She has no plans of moving any time soon.

I guess there could be some concern for tearing up certain buildings/neighborhoods which have some historical significance in Brooklyn.

Brooklyn Borough President Marty Markowitz is always trying to find ways to make sure that the rest of the world knows about the greatness of Brooklyn, that's for sure. Hopefully there will be a solution that is profitable to all.

Let's see what happens.

Rudey · #8 01-22-2004, 03:41 PM

A stadium pretty much brings no jobs and hurts the economy actually.

-Rudey
--Do a search for sports economics on here

PhiPsiRuss · #9 01-22-2004, 03:48 PM

For Brooklynites, this will have a lot more to do with civic pride, than with economics. The potential negative economic impact may be less than in other parts of the country, because there is no need for transportation infrastructure improvement. If the accompanying parking lots are built in a way to blend in with the urban fabric (include retail space, so you don't have dead sidewalks), there is an outside shot that it could help other nearby institutions like the Brooklyn Academy of Music.

I know that it will probably have a negative economic impact, but I prefer to be an optimist.

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Originally posted by Rudey
A stadium pretty much brings no jobs and hurts the economy actually.

-Rudey
--Do a search for sports economics on here

Rudey · #10 01-22-2004, 04:07 PM

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Originally posted by russellwarshay
For Brooklynites, this will have a lot more to do with civic pride, than with economics. The potential negative economic impact may be less than in other parts of the country, because there is no need for transportation infrastructure improvement. If the accompanying parking lots are built in a way to blend in with the urban fabric (include retail space, so you don't have dead sidewalks), there is an outside shot that it could help other nearby institutions like the Brooklyn Academy of Music.

I know that it will probably have a negative economic impact, but I prefer to be an optimist.

It has more to do with the fact that tax payers pay for this, the owner profits heavily, surrounding businesses are hurt, workers there have hardly an impact, etc.

-Rudey

FeeFee · #11 01-22-2004, 07:33 PM

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Originally posted by russellwarshay
For Brooklynites, this will have a lot more to do with civic pride, than with economics. The potential negative economic impact may be less than in other parts of the country, because there is no need for transportation infrastructure improvement. If the accompanying parking lots are built in a way to blend in with the urban fabric (include retail space, so you don't have dead sidewalks), there is an outside shot that it could help other nearby institutions like the Brooklyn Academy of Music.

I know that it will probably have a negative economic impact, but I prefer to be an optimist.

In this case, I too believe that it is about civic pride and not economics. This was what I sensed when I watched the people on the news complaining. They are worried about the continuing existence of their neighborhood. They could probably care less about the economic aspect. And this is coming from a proud Brooklynite!!!

Peaches-n-Cream · #12 01-22-2004, 08:58 PM

People are concerned about having to move from their homes to make way for this stadium. It was all over the local news. From WABC local news,

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It would also mean the seizure and destruction of 71 existing buildings covering ten acres and some 900 people would lose their homes. Meanwhile, many in the Prospect Heights community have stood up to denounce the plan at public meetings. The most recent was on Monday night.

Mayor Bloomberg has supported the plan. But the project still requires approval from the city and state. Ratner also needs rights from the MTA to build over the Long Island railroad yards off Flatbush Avenue.

This project is a long way off from becoming a reality, but in Prospect Heights, they are already starting the fight. People are very concerned that this neighborhood would be demolished to make way for this new arena.

If things go according to plan, the new arena could take three or more years to build.

Rudey · #13 01-22-2004, 09:53 PM

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Originally posted by Peaches-n-Cream
People are concerned about having to move from their homes to make way for this stadium. It was all over the local news. From WABC local news,

They're all probably homeless anyway.

-Rudey

Peaches-n-Cream · #14 01-22-2004, 10:37 PM

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Originally posted by Rudey
They're all probably homeless anyway.

-Rudey

Not yet, but they might be if this stadium is built as planned. The planners really need to figure out a way to accomodate these residents.

FeeFee · #15 01-23-2004, 10:21 AM

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Originally posted by Peaches-n-Cream
Not yet, but they might be if this stadium is built as planned. The planners really need to figure out a way to accomodate these residents.

Yeah, finding ways to accomodate the residents should be a top priority for the builders of the stadium. I'm quite sure that should the residents have to be relocated, they would want to live in a neighborhood that is comparable.

ETA: Why are they just talking about Prospect Heights? Wouldn't part of Park Slope be affected as well?