how many greek s come from a masonic youth background?

Oh most definitely great grandfather and grandmother is pretty much a given to get in. most membership of the girls in job's Daughters right now is really based on GREAT- grandparents. I was fortunate to have my dad, my grand dad and my great grand dad as my link in. But great grand fathers are for sure your connection in. It can reach all the way back to great step grand father, great uncle, , etc... In the past few yrs Job's Daughters has open membership up greatly. PM for any and all info and i can get you names and contacts for Job's Daughters back where your at.

I have always explained Jobs daughters to be a sorority for young girls in jr high and high school. Membership is based on 11-20 yrs of age. And if you want service we do plenty fo that!

like i said PM me and i can get you hooked up!

OMG the california Roll......that is the coolest thing i ever saw. I went to Grand assemby the yr i was a grand bethel girl and seeing you all walk is soo neat. I still love the calif hair pieces.

You rainbows have us jobies beat when it comes to hoops and formals. Even my grand bethel girl dress was big and scarlett!LOL. though when i was active girl back in the early to mid 8os i had my fair share of hoops, pretty coats and scarlett o hara typ e formals.

How do you all do that walk.....it is like you are all floatinon air as you glide along.

What shocked me si the fact that Delta Zeta and Eatern Star has had a connection like arcaia and the masons...blew my mind wheni read that.

[exlurker]

Originally Posted by cutiepatootie

What shocked me si the fact that Delta Zeta and Eatern Star has had a connection like arcaia and the masons...blew my mind wheni read that.

At least two other college fraternities had substantial ties with Masons:

Square and Compass
and
Sigma Mu Sigma

A brief history of Sigma Mu Sigma can be seen at:

http://gwired.gwu.edu/sac/greek/history/SigmaMuSigma/

and that ^ history mentions Square and Compass more or less in passing.

Square and Compass and Sigma Mu Sigma have not survived as college social fraternities.

Wasn't there also a college social fraternity for members of DeMolay? (It either became extinct or merged into another fraternity, and I don't recall its name.)

Edited to answer my own question:
The fraternity for DeMolays was Delta Sigma Lambda, founded in 1921. The Depression was not kind to it, either, and in 1937 the chapters at Purdue and Montana, with their alumni, were absorbed into Theta Chi. Earlier the Nebraska chapter had joined Phi Gamma Delta, later the Rensselaer chapter joined Lambda Chi Alpha. A couple of other chapters became locals.

[trojangal]

Are you all seeing a dramatic drop in the youth organizations? I was shocked, upon moving back to FL, that many of the Rainbow Assemblies were now inactive. I wasn't able to determine from the state website how many are actually active, and would love to find out since I would like for DD to go through one of those experiences.

We always loved watching the girls from California, and I am surprised to see the changes! What other changes have they made as well?

Still a member of OES with my hometown chapter...probably should think about finding a chapter here now.

[ZetaPhi708]

Originally Posted by trojangal

Are you all seeing a dramatic drop in the youth organizations? I was shocked, upon moving back to FL, that many of the Rainbow Assemblies were now inactive. I wasn't able to determine from the state website how many are actually active, and would love to find out since I would like for DD to go through one of those experiences.

We always loved watching the girls from California, and I am surprised to see the changes! What other changes have they made as well?

Still a member of OES with my hometown chapter...probably should think about finding a chapter here now.

There used to be about 5-6 DeMolay chapters here in my city but now there is but just one. I think the same is true for Rainbow Chapters.

[clappr]

I know that my house began as DeMolay, became Local Delta Mu in 1929, and Kappa of Delta Sigma Lambda in 1931. Then in 1937 we became Epsilon-Eta of Lambda Chi Alpha

[adoniram]

Wow! How did you find all this stuff out? Do you know where I could look for more information?

Originally Posted by exlurker

At least two other college fraternities had substantial ties with Masons:

Square and Compass
and
Sigma Mu Sigma

A brief history of Sigma Mu Sigma can be seen at:

http://gwired.gwu.edu/sac/greek/history/SigmaMuSigma/

and that ^ history mentions Square and Compass more or less in passing.

Square and Compass and Sigma Mu Sigma have not survived as college social fraternities.

Wasn't there also a college social fraternity for members of DeMolay? (It either became extinct or merged into another fraternity, and I don't recall its name.)

Edited to answer my own question:
The fraternity for DeMolays was Delta Sigma Lambda, founded in 1921. The Depression was not kind to it, either, and in 1937 the chapters at Purdue and Montana, with their alumni, were absorbed into Theta Chi. Earlier the Nebraska chapter had joined Phi Gamma Delta, later the Rensselaer chapter joined Lambda Chi Alpha. A couple of other chapters became locals.

[exlurker]

Originally Posted by adoniram

Wow! How did you find all this stuff out? Do you know where I could look for more information?

Most of it was from an old Baird's Manual. Baird's Manuals from the 1920s and early 30's tend to have writeups on some of these organizations that may not have lasted past the Depression or WW2.

Some of it was from just a perfunctory Google search. (As one of our major experts on GC says, "Google is your friend.")

[breathesgelatin]

I'm just reading through this thread and remembering that both my mom and my aunt went to a Rainbow camp in (I assume) North Carolina. I don't know if they were actually in the organization though! My grandmother was in Eastern Star so I think that was the connection.

I wonder if that camp still exists. My mom loved it!

According to the NC Rainbow website, there's no assembly near me today, so I don't know if there was formerly and it shut down or my mom and aunt just somehow went to the camp anyway.

[AGDAlum]

It's funny because IMO rainbow ritual is A LOT more complicated than Phi Sig ritual ...so I'll think I"m doing something wrong because there aren't enough directions...


Assuming that Rainbow ritual is very similar to Jobies (both being derived from Freemasonry), a great big chunk of the meeting is ritual. In Jobies it's the story of Job.... "remember the pious and prosperous Job, passing in peace over his vast estates." And "in all the land were no women found so fair as the daughters of Job, and their father gave them inheritance among their brethren." Jemimah, Keziah, and Keren-happuch are the daughters.

BTW, where do "Boy Builders" fit into the lineup of Masonic organizations?

[KOZeta]

Funny you should ask...I was a Rainbow girl & my little brother is in Demolay, and he wants to join a fraternity. I loved the grandeur of IORG, and I miss that in my sorority now. Our rituals are amazing, but all the Masonic Orders seem to have stuck to their roots & retained their amazing complexity & beauty.

Thanks!

[dzandiloo]

Originally posted by Glitter650
OHH.. and I have to ask have any past rainbow girls ever REALLY wanted to say Lord help us to keep our promise after a sorority prayer ???

LOL! That is soooo true!

BTW-there is a task force in Texas to loosen up the dress code a bit. Don't know if it's gone into force, but it looks good to me (dress pants will be allowed, and formals don't have to be white anymore...just no dark colors).

A friend of mine from california was on the Job's daughters team to try and institute more bethels down that way but i guess it really did not get up and going. I use to live in Oklahoma and was very active there too.


Dress code issues...... I wish they would loosen it up some. I mean dress pants is good but these old timers ( i mean the old ,old ones) will not change a dang thing ...and you wonder why these kindof groups are fledgling

[Glitter650]

Actually Cali rainbow just loosened up on their dress code... NICE NICE dress pants are ok for regular meetings.. but formals must be worn to initiation meetings and installation dresses can also now be "tea length" (to the ankles) rather than 2 inches from the floor... Cali rainbow can wear color as long as it's not too dark... no super dark blue or green or purple basically... and people complain about dressing for formal sorority meetings.
As far as the "gliding" in a hoop... I could tell you... but then I"d have to kill you
Nah... really it's just making sure you walk with your whole foot... heel through toe and making sure to mind your posture. It is impressive though when you see that floor work done on the grand floor with about 40 ladies all gliding and making formations and such...=== getting all nostalgic === SIGH

[pirate00]

Originally posted by James
So rainbow etc are auxillary groups? You are not actually masons? Kind of like Fraternity little sisters before they got banned?

Members of Rainbow Girls, Order of Demolay, Job's Daughters, Daughters of Isis, Order of Amaranth, Knights of Pythagoras, and the Order of the Eastern Star, for those who weren't sure, are NOT Masons! They are members of appendant bodies of Freemasonry.

True, minute and particular elements of Masonic language and order are found in fraternity and sorority ritual, but they are in no way similar to the rituals used in a Masonic Lodge. Being a Master Mason myself, I felt I should bring about some truth on this subject. If there are any other questions anyone has (without trying to seek out secrets, because I certainly will not answer them) respond here or PM me.