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		| Originally posted by MeezDiscreet if you are willing to carry a piece of meat around on a  stick for a week, you must really want this.  and if you have that type of excitement and enthusiasm while TRYING to be a member, you'll probably carry it over once you ARE a member.
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 If someone wants to argue the benefits of putting people through what these boys are going through, they need to pick a different group of boys because this seems to be the worst case scenario of every situation they could be in.  
Case in point -- the kidnapping/beating of a brother to "bond" with the pledge class at the request of members.
If people will keep it in perspective, then carrying meat around on a stick for a week can be a silly yet bonding-filled learning experience that will bring them together in the brotherhood (I guess).  It is that . . . along with the beach scene with the push-ups and the wind sprints . . . along with the push-ups on a busy street . . . along with the wearing of attire that is racially insensitive to the person wearing it that lends itself to things getting out of hand . . . which they did or the upstanding group of individually would not have been suspended from their campus.  
Where is the culturally enriching aspect to what they are doing?  Where is the charity work?  Where is the mentoring?  What can they learn from this display except how to get thrown out of school on their collective arshes?  While in the midst of a job search, I watch because these boys (both the ones in school and the alumni that come back to the activities and the house to haze the group) are a big giant group of clowns and I laugh when thinking that this is what they should as opposed to what they should not do.  Luckily, I read a few articles about what is going on with the chapter as a result of the behavior of these excited and enthusiastic neos and their wonderful prophytes -- it's not pretty.