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				Plus/Minus Grading system?
			 
			 
			
		
		
		
			
			I was wondering if anyone's school has the plus/minus grading system in place? 
Do you feel it works for you?
 
A lot of students on my campus were against it, but the university passed it anyway, and now they are spending a WHOLE LOT OF MONEY to move to the new system.  (Which is odd.. I thought all the schools in Texas had budget cuts?    )
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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			IT SUCKS  
 
They instituted it here at Nebraska last year. Basically you get punished across the board, particularly here since before hand they had (+)'s given for like an 89% or real borderline cases that ended up as a 3.5 on transcripts...now a B+ is a 3.33. 
 
I got screwed out of scholarships b/c of the damn (-). I needed a 3.5 GPA to keep them, and under any other grading scale I used I had a 3.5, but under the only one that counted I ended with a 3.41. I wouldn't be so opposed to the system if they had accordingly adjusted the scholarship requirements to the B+ average it had always been. The other thing is that there is no bonus for getting an A+.  
 
It also sucks for people who get all A's but one happens to be an A-, so they don't get a 4.0. 
 
That also sucks they are spending $$$ to implement. (what are they having to spend money on though?)
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
	
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			I can't remember exactly what they were spending the money on... I think it might be something about our current 'technology' doesn't support the plus/minus system.  
 
A lot of the students I spoke with were downright upset the university passed it even though the SGA shot it down.   
 
A lot of upper-level classes require a C in order to pass and take the next classes, and many students fear that if they do bad at the beginning of the semester and work really hard to get the C to pass, they might end up with a C- and have to retake the course, which costs more money, and more time before graduation. 
 
I personally don't like the system because of the reasons you stated, and I think they are planning on implementing it in the next Fall term.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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			Our school started it and I hate it. Now students are coming to our offices in tears, begging for points. This never happened before--I foresee a rise in cheating as well. The pre-med students will be campaigning for every little half point. 
 
I don't use the minuses and checks unless someone has a 99 or 89, etc.--then I give plusses.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
				  
				
					
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			  OK.. i'm super worried about this now
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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			our school uses the +/- system, and I hate it!!
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
	
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			WTF? This must be a geographical thing. Every school I went to from elementary to college used the +/- grading system.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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			We had the plus/minus system in Minnesota and I didn't mind it. I was pleasantly surprised with pluses more than I was negatively surprised with minuses. I think that most of the professors tended to use the pluses to reward extra work more than they used the minuses to punish slackers. 
 
I do think, however, that there is often very little difference between an A- and a B+ and that it sucks that such a little difference in effort can make such a big difference in your GPA. 
 
Here at Wisconsin we have the A, AB, B, BC, C grading system and I think that's a nice compromise -- it offers an option for borderline cases without so much possibility of lowering your GPA.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
	
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			Ahhh a mystery solved. This weekend I was on the campus of Arizona State Univ. and saw signs for student goverment election candidates who promised to do away with the plus/minus grading system. My high school aged son asked what's that and I could only guess at what was going on....  
 
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			My school just had a serious controversy about it. We're a little wacky anyway...no required classes outside one's major, even though you do need 30 classes to graduate (4 a semester for 4 years is 32).  You can drop classes at any time during the semester, and you have until midsemester to add a class. Plus, you can take any class you want pass/fail. So, when some teachers felt like adding plus/minuses to the grading system would halt grade inflation--that they wouldn't feel pressured to give A/B students A's when they probably deserved A minuses or B pluses, heads got mad pissed. Basically, they decided not to do it, which made us all relieved. 
Is all of the UT system doing that?   
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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				up here in the Pacific NW ...
			 
			 
			
		
		
		
			
			The "Plus/Minus" grading system is used at UBC (Vancouver, Canada), as well as at many other post-secondary institutions in Canada. Here is the percentage/mark/GPA value breakdown used here: 
Percentage (%) // Letter Grade // GPA value 
90-100  //   A+  //  4.33 
85-89    //   A    //  4.0 
80-84    //   A-   //  3.67 
76-79    //   B+  //  3.33 
72-75    //   B    //  3.00 
68-71    //   B-   //  2.67 
64-67    //   C+  //  2.33 
60-63    //   C    //  2.0 
55-59    //   C-   // 1.67 
50-54    //   D    // 1.00 ?? (not sure) 
0-49      //   F (fail)  //  0.00
 
During elementary & secondary school, this grading system was not used, at least not in my schools -- around here, grading practices can vary from school to school within the same district.
 
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				Originally posted by Dionysus  
WTF? This must be a geographical thing. Every school I went to from elementary to college used the +/- grading system. 
			
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 Yeah.. me too. My HS had a horribly tough grading scale.. a 92% was (probably still is) a B+.
 
My university's seemed easy after that.   
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			Plus/minus sucks monkey ***.  At my first graduate school, I had a 4.0 GPA. Now I have all As, but since two are just As (not A+) and two are A-, my GPA is 3.67. 
Frickin' administration monkeys.    
(edited because I want to give canadajen a shoutout for posting the UBC grading system)
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			We always had only  numbers in high school.  (I miss the S, I, & U system of elementary school. Hehehe) At college, you couldn't get an A+, but it started with A, then went down with the minus/no sign/plus system. I didn't mind it because I always got pretty solid A's.     I think most of the high schools people came from at my college had this same system, because no one ever really mentioned it as a problem or advantage. It just was the way it was.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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			For those of you who's schools have implemented this: 
 
What was the rationale of administration when they chose this new system?
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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