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archangel -
I think there is a previous thread with more detail about carnation's school. The two biggest probs are 1) people are quitting in their sophomore year, once they've had a chance to haze the new people and 2) what would normally be the type to go Greek - the really involved, intelligent kids - avoid the groups because of it. The uninvolvement of alumni is one reason the hazing has gotten so bad.
I think it is expected that the more stringent rules of the nationals will weed out the bad seeds.
and yes, it is a private university.
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