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Old 11-30-2005, 03:24 PM
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Making sure alums do not feel disenfranchised increases support, which increases donations and the amount of alums enthused about their sorority, which makes everything better.
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To take it a step further, alumnae who are enthusiastic about their sorority are more apt to help out other sororities.
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Old 11-30-2005, 03:33 PM
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I for one (being late to the discussion) would LOVE to see Tri Sigma back in SoCal .
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Old 11-30-2005, 04:23 PM
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My piont was and is, that there are some GLOs that seem to do better in some areas. We have seen that Phi Sig is big in the northeast. I am sorry that you all think that I was inacurate. I wanted to express the piont that some GLOs, men and women do better in some areas. I used the Commonwealth of Kentucky as an example. I defined a narrow section for study. Think about why some GLOs are more populus in some regions rather than others?
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Old 11-30-2005, 04:48 PM
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I hate to flame a newcomer, but your first post didn't really come across to me like your lastest one did.

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I have noticed that some GLOs cannot seem to keep a chapter up and running is some states. For example, Zeta Tau Alpha has closed all three of the chapters that were opened in the Commonwelath of KY, dating from the 1920's forward. Alpha Xi Delta has had to close it's two chapters in KY due to low numbers. Alpha Xi closed the Xi chapter on the campus of UK.
I think probably naming names here was a little unnecessary. It isn't as if those are the only groups who deal with this. My own group has 3 inactive chapters in Kentucky.

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On the other hand, Alpha Gam, Pike, Sig Ep, Chi O, and KD seem to grow all over.
Every GLO has strong chapters and struggling ones. It's great that you have a positive image of these 5, but basing this conclusion on what you see in Kentucky is sort of silly. (I know in my state, if you asked someone what 5 are strong all over, it wouldn't be the same 5.)

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Old 11-30-2005, 05:34 PM
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My piont was and is, that there are some GLOs that seem to do better in some areas. We have seen that Phi Sig is big in the northeast. I am sorry that you all think that I was inacurate. I wanted to express the piont that some GLOs, men and women do better in some areas. I used the Commonwealth of Kentucky as an example. I defined a narrow section for study. Think about why some GLOs are more populus in some regions rather than others?
That's true. But you ruined any credibility you had when you said certain groups seemed to "grow all over." Looking at this board for 2 seconds would have told you the groups you chose aren't necessarily doing that (again, nothing against them, just that they are not constantly opening and never closing chapters).

And take your example of ZTA "not being able to keep a chapter open." The three chapters in Kentucky closed in 1977, 1982 and 1992. Two of them had been open since the 1920's! I hardly call an existence of 70 years "not being able to keep a chapter open."

Please research your facts before you spout off about something you know very little about and insult other Greek organizations.
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Old 11-30-2005, 05:36 PM
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So, to get back to the original question (?) who is supposed to help the Smaller GLOs or Chapters on Campus?
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Old 11-30-2005, 06:01 PM
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My frustration with NPC is that while equality is great (obviously) I also feel like it is just as vital to promote diversity.
Ding ding ding! I realize I'm taking this statement out of context, but I think it's still a great point.

Campus Panhellenics, when expanding, could make the effort to diverify the state. When a campus is looking to expand, I wish they would be more open-minded to inviting groups that already AREN'T represented at another campus in the area. I've noticed from other threads that campuses seem to pick groups that are at a neighboring campus. For example, I've seen comments such as, "Well, ABC is at Tri-State U (45 miles up the road), and since we're trying to be competitive with Tri-State U, we decided on ABC." Granted, this means there is a better chance that more alumnae from that group will live in the area, but that's not an absolute. There may be more XYZs than ABCs who live there!

Something someone else mentioned that I'd like to reiterate is that NPC needs to stress to each college Panhellenic that they are only hurting themselves by trying to limit other groups. Example: a campus here in NC was expanding. A local interest group had petitioned for a new NPC, and they asked some NPCs to come present. One of the groups chosen to present, ABC, was chosen because many legacies of that group go to this particular university and were a part of that interest group. When the college Panhellenic voted between having ABC or XYZ come to that campus, they decided on XYZ, because, "if we bring ABC to campus, our numbers will go down because the legacies will now have the opportunity to join that group."
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Old 11-30-2005, 06:06 PM
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Latest announcement per Bulletin 98 – Nov. 15

Carnegie-Mellon University, Pittsburgh, PA – A local seeking NPC affiliation.
Clayton State University, Morrow, Georgia – Ground up. Opening to NPC for the first time. Already has six NPHCs, two NPHC colonies and one NIC colony, Sigma Pi.
Coastal Carolina University, Conway, South Carolina – Ground up
Dartmouth College, Hanover, New Hampshire – There is an NPC interest group.
De Paul University, Chicago, Illinois – Ground up
University of LaVerne, LaVerne, California - Ground up
University of Virginia’s College at Wise, Wise, Virginia - Two locals seeking NPC affiliation.
University of Wisconsin, Parkside, Kenosha, Wisconsin - There is an interest group. Opening to NPC for the first time. Already has several multicultural sororities and fraternities.
What bullentin is this from? Just curious.
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Old 11-30-2005, 06:13 PM
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What bullentin is this from? Just curious.
NPC Extension Bulletin - sent 6-10 times per year to Executive offices, NPC delegations and Expansion Directors for each of the 26 NPC groups.

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Old 11-30-2005, 06:14 PM
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So, to get back to the original question (?) who is supposed to help the Smaller GLOs or Chapters on Campus?
I don't think this is the original question, is it?

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Old 11-30-2005, 06:23 PM
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Let's face it - I was ready to be gung ho for TPA at Duquesne because of their religion, not knowing that the focus group was primarily Jewish! And as an aside, TPA was very strict about being Roman Catholic when I went through Rush.

I can understand that the sororities must speak up first, and say that they would like to expand, as for all I know, there's a GLO or two that wants to stay small(er). But Panhellenics are all about trying to spread the wealth - or at least, they should be!
Can someone please tell me where this rumor that Dusquene's interest group is Jewish? This was NOT communicated through the NPC bulletin.

Besides the national in question, I think it is the job of the campus panhellenic to help the struggling chapter (this is not the smaller NPC groups I am talking about). Every campus has a chapter which could be doing better. Release figures should help a bit as larger groups cannot hold onto extra girls in earlier rounds.

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Old 11-30-2005, 06:37 PM
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Old 11-30-2005, 06:42 PM
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Besides the national in question, I think it is the job of the campus panhellenic to help the struggling chapter (this is not the smaller NPC groups I am talking about). Every campus has a chapter which could be doing better.
I think you are right that some of the solution is local campus culture. Unfortunately, I think that most young ladies in college probably have a hard time realizing that when the whole system is strong, we all benefit. Recruitment is so competitive, so it is difficult to reconcile the two concepts, especially when you are young and your life revolves only around your own GLO. If NM programs stressed panhellenic ideas as well as individual GLO information, maybe these young ladies could see the other GLOs as allies rather than competitors.
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Old 11-30-2005, 06:52 PM
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I just want to clarify. I was told the local at Duq was originally Jewish based after I made the same TPA assumption as Honey did. What their current makeup is I'm not sure. However, I would think/hope that the current sisters would honor their founders by taking that into consideration when choosing a national group.
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Old 11-30-2005, 07:32 PM
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I think you are right that some of the solution is local campus culture. Unfortunately, I think that most young ladies in college probably have a hard time realizing that when the whole system is strong, we all benefit. Recruitment is so competitive, so it is difficult to reconcile the two concepts, especially when you are young and your life revolves only around your own GLO. If NM programs stressed panhellenic ideas as well as individual GLO information, maybe these young ladies could see the other GLOs as allies rather than competitors.


I think on a campus chapter to chapter basis that's true, but not necessarily on a national GLO to GLO level... I doubt the women on the panhellenic council at my campus even have the foggiest idea that Chi Omega has beaucoup chapters all over and Phi Sig is strongest in the Northeast.
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