NPC appoints Community College Task Force

[Cheerio]

There have been more than a few smaller, 4-year schools opening for NPC expansion over the past decade where it's ended up that NO NPC groups have 'taken the bait' to expand. What could possibly make community colleges a more attractive, desirable option for expansion by an NPC group over one of those NPC-rejected schools?

[naraht]

Originally Posted by Cheerio

There have been more than a few smaller, 4-year schools opening for NPC expansion over the past decade where it's ended up that NO NPC groups have 'taken the bait' to expand. What could possibly make community colleges a more attractive, desirable option for expansion by an NPC group over one of those NPC-rejected schools?

Possibly sheer numbers. If a community college has 30,000 students and the 4-year school has 1,500, the CC *might* be better able to keep a chapter.

*However*, the experience of Alpha Phi Omega (Scouting Fraternity at that point) in the late 1960s and early 1970s might be useful. Prior to the 1960s, Alpha Phi Omega had a few chapters at 2-year schools, but they mostly weren't what we would call traditional Community Colleges. During the late 1960s and early 1970s, there was an effort to consider Community Colleges as well and about 30 chapters were created that that type of school. Today, none of those chapters are active. I believe that right now there are two active Co. One is a close in feed CC to University of Illinois where the chapter at U of Illinois can help support and the other is at Georgia Military College which isn't a normal CC.

[clemsongirl]

Originally Posted by Cheerio

There have been more than a few smaller, 4-year schools opening for NPC expansion over the past decade where it's ended up that NO NPC groups have 'taken the bait' to expand. What could possibly make community colleges a more attractive, desirable option for expansion by an NPC group over one of those NPC-rejected schools?

I can also think of a couple other reasons. The CC might be in an area with a ton of alumni interested in volunteering, whereas I know some of the 4-year schools that didn't get any interest were in the middle of goddamn nowhere and probably didn't have any kind of alumni base nearby for any organization.

Also, some 4-year schools have either former national orgs gone local, always-local orgs, or other student orgs filling a similar niche that have serious RFM and/or hazing concerns. If a school already has a strong hazing culture, it makes perfect sense that no NPC group would want to swim against the current trying to create a chapter where hazing isn't tolerated when every other social group on campus does it. A community college that's essentially a blank slate in terms of student org campus culture would be a much easier and safer choice.

[AGDee]

We have a couple universities (Eastern Michigan, Western Michigan, Wayne State) that I can think of off the top of my head where students take some of their classes at the main university but some of the basics at a community college. So they are half time at each. It has caused membership questions since they aren't full time. It saves them a TON of money though. In situations like that, it could make sense. There's also a community college in Texas where the students are automatically transferred to the 4 year University, isn't there? It's a niche case, but it exists.

[thetalady]

Originally Posted by AGDee

We have a couple universities (Eastern Michigan, Western Michigan, Wayne State) that I can think of off the top of my head where students take some of their classes at the main university but some of the basics at a community college. So they are half time at each. It has caused membership questions since they aren't full time. It saves them a TON of money though. In situations like that, it could make sense. There's also a community college in Texas where the students are automatically transferred to the 4 year University, isn't there? It's a niche case, but it exists.

You are probably thinking of Blinn College and Texas A&M in Bryan, TX

[PKT4LIFE]

Does anyone know any NPC update RE: Expanding to CC?

I found this on Alpha Sigma Alpha web site:
https://www.alphasigmaalpha.org/news...re-task-force/

[Iota_JWH]

I believe NPC usually meets in late October. I think that ASA is just preparing for a change, just in case the rules change.

[Cheerio]

Bumping, incase there has been movement from the NPC.

[naraht]

Are there any NPC Sororities that would be able to return to their founding (or early) schools if these rules went into effect? While some of those were two year at the time, I tend to expect that most of those of those schools are either no longer around or have become four year schools.

[Cookiez17]

Tri Delta said in their latest issue of the trident that they may extend into community colleges in the future. I am curious to see how this process would work not only for my own sorority but if others decide to follow suit.

[ASTalumna06]

Originally Posted by Cookiez17

Tri Delta said in their latest issue of the trident that they may extend into community colleges in the future. I am curious to see how this process would work not only for my own sorority but if others decide to follow suit.

This issue? https://issuu.com/tridelta/docs/fall21_01_68-2

Can you point out where? I skimmed the issue but must have missed it. It's also pretty late, so I'm not sure I'm seeing straight right now!

[AZTheta]

Originally Posted by ASTalumna06

This issue? https://issuu.com/tridelta/docs/fall21_01_68-2

Can you point out where? I skimmed the issue but must have missed it. It's also pretty late, so I'm not sure I'm seeing straight right now!

Did a search of the publication (neat feature of ISSUU online) and found this on page 10, under "BRAVE: IDENTIFY AND DISMANTLE RACISM: subtext heading In Progress"
"Continue work on expanding pathways to membership including alumnae initiation and the possibility of extension at community colleges"

Nowhere does it say what Cookiez17 wrote, that they may extend membership into CCs. Merely that they are looking at the possibility. What we have is yet another example of misquoting and getting exercise jumping to conclusions. Sigh.

[Cheerio]

I've read in solid newspapers, and heard on decent radio programs, that community college enrollments have gone down. Considering covid and the lowered number of HS grads available to move-on to college, not surprising.

[Cookiez17]

When I say "may" this was meant to say potentially as per the Trident issue. They will certainly have to research first, along with looking at the state of college due to Covid.

[FSUZeta]

One interesting aspect of CC expansion would be transfers to a 4 year institution. Currently some sororities have a policy that assures initiated members in good standing can transfer their membership to any chapter. Other groups allow the chapters to meet the potential transfer and then vote whether or not to allow the member to join their chapter.

Remember the stories we have read here about PNMs aspiring to join ONLY their perceived top chapter transferring to a college with a less competitive chapter of the same sorority when their hopes and dreams are dashed on the rocks during rush, THEN transferring back to original college after initiation hoping to transfer smoothly into their dream chapter, only to be voted down by that chapter? Unless policies of some sororities are changed if expansion to CCs happens, some CC chapters members will be sorely disappointed.

Another interesting facet is that currently transfers can be accepted even if the chapter is above total. What happens when a 100 member pledge class graduates with their AA degree from Alpha CC and they all transfer to Beta University and seek admission to their sorority's chapter there?