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Old 07-14-2020, 01:26 PM
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To clarify for the 98th time, Delta Phi Epsilon and Phi Sigma Sigma were founded as non-sectarian sororities, meaning that while yes, their initial founders were Jewish, they did not believe that religious affiliation should be a determining factor in membership selection.

The rest of this is a ball of wax that will likely not be pretty when it's over.
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Old 07-16-2020, 09:38 PM
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To clarify for the 98th time, Delta Phi Epsilon and Phi Sigma Sigma were founded as non-sectarian sororities, meaning that while yes, their initial founders were Jewish, they did not believe that religious affiliation should be a determining factor in membership selection.

The rest of this is a ball of wax that will likely not be pretty when it's over.
Likewise with Alpha Epsilon Phi. The sorority was founded by seven Jewish women, with ideals based on Jewish ideals (so, not quite non-sectarian), but it was never a requirement that you had to be Jewish to join.

I was Catholic when I joined. Without saying too much about our ritual, I doubt any Christian would have a problem with it.
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Old 07-21-2020, 11:48 PM
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One of my closest friends is a DPhiE (now alum) and she's Southern Baptist, and another very close friend is Jewish and a Phi Mu. Sororities and fraternities should not change their ritual. Stay true to the ritual.
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Old 07-23-2020, 02:54 PM
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Granted, it has been awhile, but when I rushed, we were "required" to work it into conversation during house tours that we were founded by "five Christian women".

My own experience as a non Christian/non Jew is that the religious elements of my ritual were totally fine with me. At the time I was agnostic, now I'm an atheist. I regard the Christian elements of our sorority as a pleasant and old-fashoned - much like the Greek mythology incorporated into these organizations.

I don't try to convert people to my way of thinking - we are all welcome to interpret based on our experiences. And I knew had I pledged D Phi E or SDT, there might have been elements that didn't line up with mine. They both cut me just before prefs, which I found disappointing.

Now, if they wanted to edit or change our ritual, I can't say I would be appalled or devastated. I think the critical elements would still be there. Namely - and I hope this is the underlying thesis of all orgs - "these are your sisters, be kind to each other".

But I don't have much of a stake in soft-pedaling religion in ritual.

Now, had our ritual stated that only Christians were good people and we should spit on non-believers, and that whites are a superior race, I would have politely gotten up and left.
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Old 07-23-2020, 07:23 PM
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Now, had our ritual stated that only Christians were good people and we should spit on non-believers, and that whites are a superior race, I would have politely gotten up and left.
It must be the partial quarantine getting to me, because somehow that sentence makes me laugh out loud.
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