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07-07-2020, 11:50 AM
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I have a cousin who joined AXiD in part *because* of their affiliation with AS. Her sister is severely autistic.
Am I mistaken in the impression those opposing AS do so because it doesn't do enough for individuals? Instead focusing on research? Is that a bad thing? It may not be what some want, but I don't see it as a bad thing.
What am I missing?
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A few posts above, SWTXBelle posted a link to a website which describes some of the issues people have with the organization.
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07-07-2020, 12:36 PM
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Autism Speaks...
Arguably, the *original* Autism Speaks founding setup by Bob and Susan Wright wasn't nearly as offensive.
However, the mergers with National Alliance for Autism Research and (even more so Cure Autism Now) have taken an organization that had a general concept of helping those with Autism to one devoted to finding a cure including a pre-natal test (allowing for selective abortions). The organization views Autism as only those with severe impact (such as those who are non-verbal, seizures etc.)), those whose additional care will in their advertising lead to such severe impact on the family that things like divorces will be caused.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contro...cy_initiatives is a decent start on the difference between the Pathology paradigm and the Neurodiversity paradigm.
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07-07-2020, 03:55 PM
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A few posts above, SWTXBelle posted a link to a website which describes some of the issues people have with the organization.
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Yeah, that's the post that caused my question. The first three points are simply "they don't do enough for individuals". The fourth is their marketing, which *in this woman's opinion* is disgusting. I've not seen it, and realize this is only one person.
No biggie; I was just curious. Just trying to understand.
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07-21-2020, 11:58 PM
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I've never met a parent of an autistic child who didn't wish there was something to help. My nephew is autistic. Highly intelligent (extremely, but I'm his aunt so I'm partial), but needs resources. Alpha Xi does not view it as a disease. AS seeks to research and help those who are on the spectrum. Sorry, I'm close to this issue.  He is important to me and as an AXiD, it makes me even more passionate about AS. And these sisters are leaving over an imagined slight.
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07-22-2020, 09:42 AM
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I've never met a parent of an autistic child who didn't wish there was something to help. My nephew is autistic. Highly intelligent (extremely, but I'm his aunt so I'm partial), but needs resources. Alpha Xi does not view it as a disease. AS seeks to research and help those who are on the spectrum. Sorry, I'm close to this issue.  He is important to me and as an AXiD, it makes me even more passionate about AS. And these sisters are leaving over an imagined slight.
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Whether or not Alpha Xi Delta views it as a disease, the issue is whether AS does...
Help yes. And that's 4% of what they do. Far more goes into making sure that more autistic people aren't born and that they are "cured".
http://www.rootpolicy.com/wp-content...lor_2017-1.pdf
And although the thread has turned to the discussion of AS, it has been pointed out that that hasn't been shown to be the reason that they are leaving.
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07-30-2020, 09:52 PM
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08-14-2020, 02:31 PM
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I know this has nothing to do with the thread, but we got off on a tangent about autism, and I'm only here to say that everyone should watch the documentary 'The Speed Cubers' on Netflix.
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08-27-2020, 01:18 AM
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They should drop out of school because it allows Greek life to exist.
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08-27-2020, 08:44 AM
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I will admit that I am struggling to see their reasoning. If the organisation in which they are member does not meet their needs, then they most certainly should drop their membership in that organisation. I do not understand the mindset that says if an organisation is not meeting their needs, then that organisation should be destroyed. I know that cancel culture is the current trend, but the sense of entitlement that these women seem to have is mind-boggling. I just do not understand the mindset that says "destroy anything that I do not 100% approve of."
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08-27-2020, 04:45 PM
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I will admit that I am struggling to see their reasoning. If the organisation in which they are member does not meet their needs, then they most certainly should drop their membership in that organisation. I do not understand the mindset that says if an organisation is not meeting their needs, then that organisation should be destroyed. I know that cancel culture is the current trend, but the sense of entitlement that these women seem to have is mind-boggling. I just do not understand the mindset that says "destroy anything that I do not 100% approve of."
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08-27-2020, 06:16 PM
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I will admit that I am struggling to see their reasoning. If the organisation in which they are member does not meet their needs, then they most certainly should drop their membership in that organisation. I do not understand the mindset that says if an organisation is not meeting their needs, then that organisation should be destroyed. I know that cancel culture is the current trend, but the sense of entitlement that these women seem to have is mind-boggling. I just do not understand the mindset that says "destroy anything that I do not 100% approve of."
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08-27-2020, 09:31 PM
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They should drop out of school because it allows Greek life to exist.
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06-14-2021, 03:51 PM
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Well somewhat related but Alpha Xi Delta has ended their partnership with Autism Speaks. Their philanthropy for now is called the Kindly Hearts Campaign, which will help areas that were really affected by COVID.
https://www.alphaxidelta.org/stateme...nthropic-focus
Last edited by Cookiez17; 06-14-2021 at 05:53 PM.
Reason: Putting a press release
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06-15-2021, 02:09 PM
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Well somewhat related but Alpha Xi Delta has ended their partnership with Autism Speaks. Their philanthropy for now is called the Kindly Hearts Campaign, which will help areas that were really affected by COVID.
https://www.alphaxidelta.org/stateme...nthropic-focus
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Autism speaks struck me as sort of an odd choice for a national service partnerships because there are definitely those who loudly disagree with the group. While I know there are concerns with "vanilla", I do think that it makes it easier when a national philanthropy isn't one the mainstream media is willing to give time to those who oppose it.
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