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Old 01-16-2019, 11:46 PM
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I don’t understand this tier system. Maybe someone could educate me. Is it simply who the sorority pairs with? So sorority A is top tier an IU, but bottom tier at say....Ohio State?

Forgive my ignorance, just seeking to understand.
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Old 01-17-2019, 12:03 AM
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I don’t understand this tier system. Maybe someone could educate me. Is it simply who the sorority pairs with? So sorority A is top tier an IU, but bottom tier at say....Ohio State?

Forgive my ignorance, just seeking to understand.
See post 276. I think it is primarily based on party culture. Those who throw the biggest parties every weekend are "top" tier. Grades, philanthropy, etc. aren't really considered.
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Old 01-17-2019, 03:00 AM
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I don’t understand this tier system. Maybe someone could educate me. Is it simply who the sorority pairs with? So sorority A is top tier an IU, but bottom tier at say....Ohio State?

Forgive my ignorance, just seeking to understand.
A few years back, somebody figured out a way to make money ranking fraternities and sororities at various universities. They created the notorious website called Greek Rank. (I will not provide the link, but you can google it yourself.) Many believe that this single website is responsible for most of the strife regarding "tier" rankings.

Here's what some students at Columbia University say: "Greekrank is a website where people can rank fraternities, sororities, and gossip about Greek life. * * * Most of the comments are by trolls who are using the site as a means of procrastination and/or a cure for boredom. It is seen as a spiritual successor to CollegeACB and its short-lived successor CollegiateACB * * * You can pay $5 to have mean things about your organization removed."
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Old 01-17-2019, 08:14 AM
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What defintes top tier?

One thing I find interesting, in this artificial ranking of sororities, is that at some other big Greek systems . . . University of Alabama for one . . . the "top tier" sororities seem to have a more well-rounded image. The top sororities there are often also top in GPA and seem to have girls who are described as nice and involved. Of course, they are also attractive, like to party, and being from a wealthy or well-known family does not hurt.

That's not to say there aren't smart, nice girls in the top sororities at IU, but there seems to have become a dichotomy in the rankings with about midway through the list you have some of the higher GPA and more involved sororities.
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Old 01-17-2019, 12:44 PM
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One thing I find interesting, in this artificial ranking of sororities, is that at some other big Greek systems . . . University of Alabama for one . . . the "top tier" sororities seem to have a more well-rounded image. The top sororities there are often also top in GPA and seem to have girls who are described as nice and involved. Of course, they are also attractive, like to party, and being from a wealthy or well-known family does not hurt.

That's not to say there aren't smart, nice girls in the top sororities at IU, but there seems to have become a dichotomy in the rankings with about midway through the list you have some of the higher GPA and more involved sororities.
That’s what I was going to say. It was either Alabama or Mizzou’s Reek Grank where the main reason for impugning certain chapters was their low GPA and involvement. That was certainly a new one on me.
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Old 01-17-2019, 03:34 PM
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I really AM going to step on some toes here, so sorry already.

We talk about that women aren't mature enough to make the decision to join the sorority without letting the tent talk and ranks affect them. Part of that onus has to sit on the parents. As an advisor, I have so many women that don't like a rule or something else that run to their parent and have their parent call me about it. These women are adults, so let them face the consequences of their choices. Sure, you can be there for them for comfort, but it's not your job to make things "right" in their eyes. I get that every parent wants their kid to get all they wish for in life, but in reality, that's not going to happen.

I'm sure there are plenty of open spots in IU sororities, but they just may not be at the house you were dead set to join. The top houses are not doing informal, and that's just more reality. Lots of moms say that their kid has a 4.0, is solving world peace and a supermodel to boot, but trust me, so are most of the women going through recruitment. Whatever the reasoning, these women got what they got, and if they want to be Greek, they can stay in the process and see how it works out, or they can drop and cry in their rooms that they aren't in top tier ABC.

Sorry, that last line was probably mean. I just had a rant
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Old 01-17-2019, 03:45 PM
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I really AM going to step on some toes here, so sorry already.

We talk about that women aren't mature enough to make the decision to join the sorority without letting the tent talk and ranks affect them. Part of that onus has to sit on the parents. As an advisor, I have so many women that don't like a rule or something else that run to their parent and have their parent call me about it. These women are adults, so let them face the consequences of their choices. Sure, you can be there for them for comfort, but it's not your job to make things "right" in their eyes. I get that every parent wants their kid to get all they wish for in life, but in reality, that's not going to happen.

I'm sure there are plenty of open spots in IU sororities, but they just may not be at the house you were dead set to join. The top houses are not doing informal, and that's just more reality. Lots of moms say that their kid has a 4.0, is solving world peace and a supermodel to boot, but trust me, so are most of the women going through recruitment. Whatever the reasoning, these women got what they got, and if they want to be Greek, they can stay in the process and see how it works out, or they can drop and cry in their rooms that they aren't in top tier ABC.

Sorry, that last line was probably mean. I just had a rant
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Old 01-17-2019, 04:44 PM
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Lots of moms say that their kid has a 4.0, is solving world peace and a supermodel to boot, but trust me, so are most of the women going through recruitment.
This made me LOL at my desk. There have been several times this year that I've had to remind my super special snowflake that every one of the women in her house is exactly as super special as she is. In high school, her achievements stood out but in her sorority? Not so much. It's been a good learning, growing experience.

... and I've not once called anyone to complain about it. I can't imagine the patience it takes to deal with those phone calls.
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Old 01-17-2019, 04:58 PM
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... and I've not once called anyone to complain about it. I can't imagine the patience it takes to deal with those phone calls.
and text messages, and emails, and facebook messages, and Instagram messages, and rude facebook posts...
and if they don't get the answer they want then they call headquarters. Those people are the real saints.
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Old 01-17-2019, 05:37 PM
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Lots of moms say that their kid has a 4.0, is solving world peace and a supermodel to boot, but trust me, so are most of the women going through recruitment.
While admirable, that doesn't necessarily make you a "top tier" prospect.
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Old 01-17-2019, 06:48 PM
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I'm sure there are plenty of open spots in IU sororities, but they just may not be at the house you were dead set to join. The top houses are not doing informal, and that's just more reality. Lots of moms say that their kid has a 4.0, is solving world peace and a supermodel to boot, but trust me, so are most of the women going through recruitment. Whatever the reasoning, these women got what they got, and if they want to be Greek, they can stay in the process and see how it works out, or they can drop and cry in their rooms that they aren't in top tier ABC.

Sorry, that last line was probably mean. I just had a rant
Girlfriend, you and I both know that even at our tiny little alma maters there were plenty of former Miss Everythings who got a wake up call. I can’t imagine going off to a school the size of a small city and thinking you are still going to be queen of all you survey. I guess that’s what they mean when they say kids are not taught how to reason anymore.
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Old 01-17-2019, 06:04 PM
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That’s what I was going to say. It was either Alabama or Mizzou’s Reek Grank where the main reason for impugning certain chapters was their low GPA and involvement. That was certainly a new one on me.
I do admit to occasionally looking at Mizzou's Reek Grank site (hey, I have family and lots of friends who were in GLO's there). Although there is the usual tiresome chatter about which houses have the hottest women, there is a lot of talk about which houses also have the best sisterhoods, good grades and are the most involved on campus. There is also a fair amount of criticism regularly leveled at a couple of the chapters who seem to be focused more on recruiting pretty party girls to the detriment of grades, sisterhood, philanthropy and/or involvement. Mizzou's Panhellenic also seems to be very focused on stamping out hazing and major alcohol problems, issues which used to get a lot of houses at Mizzou in major trouble.* The one thing I do see on Mizzou's Reek Grank page that I find surprising is the competitiveness over who has the prettiest house(s). A few chapters have torn down their old mansions and rebuilt even spiffier versions, while several more have done major renovations in recent years. Apparently real estate envy begins early!

*Edited to add that fraternities at Mizzou are, unfortunately, still getting into trouble over alcohol and hazing issues, with several chapters having charters pulled in recent years, including the charter of one of the largest and most popular fraternities early in the fall semester.
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