Indiana University Recruitment 2019

ForeverRoses · #1 01-16-2019, 09:27 AM

so just doing a quick check on numbers- they said in the article that 1157 received bids. Based on the number of women in ICS on Monday (which means they signed a bid card), less than 70 women were dropped after preference for SIPing. So the grumbling about daughters not getting a bid is from a very small minority.

Oh, and ICS had quota set at 57, not 59.

GreekOne · #2 01-16-2019, 11:17 AM

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so just doing a quick check on numbers- they said in the article that 1157 received bids. Based on the number of women in ICS on Monday (which means they signed a bid card), less than 70 women were dropped after preference for SIPing. So the grumbling about daughters not getting a bid is from a very small minority.

Oh, and ICS had quota set at 57, not 59.

Kappa Alpha Theta took 61.

clayton117 · #3 01-16-2019, 11:49 AM

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so just doing a quick check on numbers- they said in the article that 1157 received bids. Based on the number of women in ICS on Monday (which means they signed a bid card), less than 70 women were dropped after preference for SIPing. So the grumbling about daughters not getting a bid is from a very small minority.

Oh, and ICS had quota set at 57, not 59.

My daughter reported her pledge class is 64 (AEPhi) They have a cute house, but not an enormous one. They must have taken some extras this cycle. She said everyone seemed very happy to be there

ForeverRoses · #4 01-16-2019, 01:51 PM

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My daughter reported her pledge class is 64 (AEPhi) They have a cute house, but not an enormous one. They must have taken some extras this cycle. She said everyone seemed very happy to be there

they didn't take "extras" as much as they took quota additions. This was the first year anyone that maximized their options was guaranteed a bid. And in the past, chapters could decide if they would take the QAs, this year they had no choice. Plus with no campus total, chapters could add via "informal recruitment" as soon as bid day officially ended- so last night.

navane · #5 01-16-2019, 02:23 PM

Gamma Phi Beta took 58.

GreekOne · #6 01-16-2019, 03:12 PM

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they didn't take "extras" as much as they took quota additions. This was the first year anyone that maximized their options was guaranteed a bid. And in the past, chapters could decide if they would take the QAs, this year they had no choice. Plus with no campus total, chapters could add via "informal recruitment" as soon as bid day officially ended- so last night.

@ForeverRoses Are you certain that all were guaranteed bids this year, if they maximized their options? There are parents on the IU FB page adamant that their Ds or Ds friends were called last night, hours before the bid ceremony, and were told that they got no bid despite maximizing their options. I didn't want to tell them they were misinformed because I didn't know if this was, in fact, the rule this year. But, it seemed strange to me this would happen with QAs. Can you confirm based on personal experience?

ForeverRoses · #7 01-16-2019, 04:06 PM

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@ForeverRoses Are you certain that all were guaranteed bids this year, if they maximized their options? There are parents on the IU FB page adamant that their Ds or Ds friends were called last night, hours before the bid ceremony, and were told that they got no bid despite maximizing their options. I didn't want to tell them they were misinformed because I didn't know if this was, in fact, the rule this year. But, it seemed strange to me this would happen with QAs. Can you confirm based on personal experience?

It is what I was told by the Rho Gammas and the information sent out by Panhellenic prior to recruitment starting. I am a recruitment advisor at IU and was in Bloomington living in the sorority house for the past two weeks. As such, I have access to the raw data within the recruitment system (ICS). I can see the numbers as they change. As previously stated, I don't see a huge number of unmatched women based on the number that signed bid cards Sunday night versus the number of bids handed out.
I will say that there are plenty of Ds and Ds friends that may not want to admit that this is on them and want to "blame the system".

I will also say that having spent plenty of time with Rho Gammas over the past two weeks that if the Rho Gammas are reflecting their chapters then any woman that gets a bid to ANY house is lucky to be a member. I couldn't "guess" what chapter most of the Rho Gammas were members of- I was just as shocked as to whom was a member of a "top tier" as I was "bottom tier".

spillthetea · #8 01-16-2019, 10:31 PM

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It is what I was told by the Rho Gammas and the information sent out by Panhellenic prior to recruitment starting. I am a recruitment advisor at IU and was in Bloomington living in the sorority house for the past two weeks. As such, I have access to the raw data within the recruitment system (ICS). I can see the numbers as they change. As previously stated, I don't see a huge number of unmatched women based on the number that signed bid cards Sunday night versus the number of bids handed out.
I will say that there are plenty of Ds and Ds friends that may not want to admit that this is on them and want to "blame the system".

I will also say that having spent plenty of time with Rho Gammas over the past two weeks that if the Rho Gammas are reflecting their chapters then any woman that gets a bid to ANY house is lucky to be a member. I couldn't "guess" what chapter most of the Rho Gammas were members of- I was just as shocked as to whom was a member of a "top tier" as I was "bottom tier".

Just wondering if PNMs get dropped often for being disrespectful at houses? I read somewhere that if a PNM is blatantly disrespectful to a house at pref, they can be dropped from the process. Wondering if you have numbers showing that? Is a girl notified she has been dismissed from recruitment or just told she didn’t get a bid? Some of the parents on the FB were upset that there daughters were “made” to go to a house that she never wanted. Wondering if some of these girls weren’t dismissed for attitude?

IndianaSigKap · #9 01-16-2019, 10:48 PM

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Just wondering if PNMs get dropped often for being disrespectful at houses? I read somewhere that if a PNM is blatantly disrespectful to a house at pref, they can be dropped from the process. Wondering if you have numbers showing that? Is a girl notified she has been dismissed from recruitment or just told she didn’t get a bid? Some of the parents on the FB were upset that there daughters were “made” to go to a house that she never wanted. Wondering if some of these girls weren’t dismissed for attitude?

If a PNM is "dismissed for attitude", the PNM is contacted by Panhellenic and is told exactly why she is being released. When will parents understand that recruitment is conducted by private organizations, it will not always be fair in their eyes. As an adult, I must to do things daily that I don't want to do. It's part of life. If a young adult cannot do things he or she doesn't want to do, life is going to be very tough for him or her.

navane · #10 01-16-2019, 04:07 PM

Thank you ForeverRoses for helping to confirm the info. A couple of posters previously posted on this thread that bids are guaranteed for maximized options at pref round. So, if those young ladies got dropped, it seems reasonable to assume that they did NOT maximize their options by listing ALL chapters on their cards at pref. Those PNMs may have SIP'd and either don't understand what "maximizing options means" or they didn't want to tell their parents that they SIP'd and the gamble didn't work out.

GreekOne · #11 01-16-2019, 04:40 PM

^^^^ Yes. I suspect that is exactly why the parents are misinformed. I am so appreciative of all of the improvements that IU is making and it ruffles my feathers that people want to blame the system for the no bids.

ForeverRoses · #12 01-16-2019, 04:50 PM

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^^^^ Yes. I suspect that is exactly why the parents are misinformed. I am so appreciative of all of the improvements that IU is making and it ruffles my feathers that people want to blame the system for the no bids.

My apologies if I seem short, but every year people complain about how horrible IU recruitment can be. And every year they try and make it better. At this point it seems to me that we are in a situation where there are plenty of available bids- it's just that the bids that are available aren't to the groups the Ds think they "deserve".

I would LOVE to see a large group of amazing women all join one of the "bottom tier" groups en mass and flip the whole thing on it's head. then again, I would love for the women to stand up to the fraternities and refuse to "pair" unless all the fraternities paired with all the sororities. Alas I doubt that will happen as some of the members seems to relish in the tier structure.