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01-13-2019, 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by lyrespearls
I'm kind of confused by this. Where are the PNM's getting the idea that larger national houses matter more than "smaller" national houses especially when we know how strong the tier "hold" is at IU? Are they equating larger and smaller with tiers/housed vs unhoused? Just curious.
For sure the tent talk after 9 party is on overdrive especially given what is going on w/Chi O (heartbreaking) so the emotions have to be off the charts. Those poor Rho Gams too! Hang in there moms! I feel your anxiety!
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I’ll use Ladybug’s roommate as an example.
She had Delta Gamma and Theta Phi Alpha.
Everyone is telling her to suicide DG because theta phi alpha is small and “insignificant”. Then the tiers are coming into play as well, the top sororities all seem to be the larger ones and the lower ones seem to be on the smaller side and so Bug’s rho gam group has all of their own ideas about this.
If it helps, I’m not sure about it either. Just repeating what Bug has told me.
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01-13-2019, 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by DistantXOcousin
I’ll use Ladybug’s roommate as an example.
She had Delta Gamma and Theta Phi Alpha.
Everyone is telling her to suicide DG because theta phi alpha is small and “insignificant”. Then the tiers are coming into play as well, the top sororities all seem to be the larger ones and the lower ones seem to be on the smaller side and so Bug’s rho gam group has all of their own ideas about this.
If it helps, I’m not sure about it either. Just repeating what Bug has told me.
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No chapter is "insignificant." It's only that way if the members in it believe it to be so. Your Bug's roommate hopefully understands that if she intentionally single preferences, she's ineligible for quota additions. Every chapter at IU has something to offer, and once the ladies become members, they realize people across chapters are more alike than they are different. As far as "tiers" go (lord I hate even talking about such ridiculousness), if IU would stop its ridiculous almost cultish "pair" nonsense, all that would go away.
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01-13-2019, 06:05 PM
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No chapter is "insignificant." It's only that way if the members in it believe it to be so. Your Bug's roommate hopefully understands that if she intentionally single preferences, she's ineligible for quota additions. Every chapter at IU has something to offer, and once the ladies become members, they realize people across chapters are more alike than they are different. As far as "tiers" go (lord I hate even talking about such ridiculousness), if IU would stop its ridiculous almost cultish "pair" nonsense, all that would go away.
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THIS ^ all day!
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01-13-2019, 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by BUDelta4Life
No chapter is "insignificant." It's only that way if the members in it believe it to be so. Your Bug's roommate hopefully understands that if she intentionally single preferences, she's ineligible for quota additions. Every chapter at IU has something to offer, and once the ladies become members, they realize people across chapters are more alike than they are different. As far as "tiers" go (lord I hate even talking about such ridiculousness), if IU would stop its ridiculous almost cultish "pair" nonsense, all that would go away.
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So true! I think a lot of these girls could be making rash decisions based on the stupid tier system.
And for what it’s worth, they may not feel an instant connection. It takes time to build relationships, meet people, and get involved in the sorority. It’s taken my daughter a year, but she loves where she ended up, and I love the new friends she’s made. ❤️
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01-13-2019, 06:59 PM
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So true! I think a lot of these girls could be making rash decisions based on the stupid tier system.
And for what it’s worth, they may not feel an instant connection. It takes time to build relationships, meet people, and get involved in the sorority. It’s taken my daughter a year, but she loves where she ended up, and I love the new friends she’s made. ❤️
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Agree, once they get their houses they will start to realize the whole tier thing is stupid. My D is fairly shy but she has really found her place with her chapter. She surprised us by how involved she has become. She also has maintained her friends that joined other houses. They still get together and do things. It's not like they aren't allowed to associated because their houses may be in different tiers.
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01-13-2019, 07:04 PM
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Thanks for all the wisdom and insight , gals. My kid is still turning her puzzle. I think she is leaning one way, but feels like it will be ok either outcome. None of her little group of school friends will be in her house either way, so I think that is freaking out.
Good luck to all of the mamas with girls weighing their decisions. Ours is to be continued...
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01-14-2019, 03:05 AM
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Thanks for all the wisdom and insight , gals. My kid is still turning her puzzle. I think she is leaning one way, but feels like it will be ok either outcome. None of her little group of school friends will be in her house either way, so I think that is freaking out.
Good luck to all of the mamas with girls weighing their decisions. Ours is to be continued...
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I went through recruitment at IU my sophomore year, but my roommate (both freshman and sophomore year) joined a sorority freshman year. It ultimately made my decision difficult, because I was deciding whether or not to rank her chapter first after preference round. I ended up with a bid to my chapter but our friendship didn't suffer one bit. In a way, I gained a second set of sisters through spending so much time with her sorority. I spent nights at the house, went to their formals with her (and her mine!), and we supported each other's philanthropy events. Having different experiences and stories to share was fun! She is still my absolute best friend.
I hope your daughter loves the chapter that she ends up joining, and she gets to see how other sororities work and meet new people through her friends! It really is the best of both worlds.
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01-14-2019, 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by phoenix16
I went through recruitment at IU my sophomore year, but my roommate (both freshman and sophomore year) joined a sorority freshman year. It ultimately made my decision difficult, because I was deciding whether or not to rank her chapter first after preference round. I ended up with a bid to my chapter but our friendship didn't suffer one bit. In a way, I gained a second set of sisters through spending so much time with her sorority. I spent nights at the house, went to their formals with her (and her mine!), and we supported each other's philanthropy events. Having different experiences and stories to share was fun! She is still my absolute best friend.
I hope your daughter loves the chapter that she ends up joining, and she gets to see how other sororities work and meet new people through her friends! It really is the best of both worlds.
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Thank you! Great way of looking at the situation. I think she was feeling better by the end of the night, and spreading out is good for her. I think her solo status dawned on her in the early evening, and combined with being completely drained, caused her to be a little testy. She just wanted to get to her homework and go to bed!
I am trying to avoid the anxious "what if she doesn't get a bid??" thinking that seems to creep in at the end and trust the process. Looking forward to her getting her answer and moving ahead with this next chapter (ha! punny) of her time at IU.
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01-14-2019, 01:09 PM
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Clayton117 - It is my understanding that as long as your daughter ranked both of her houses (and did not suicide), she will get one of her two choices.
Somebody mentioned something about live streaming Bid Night. That would be so fun to see!
I am so glad I found this site and thanks again to everyone who posted. You all have great advice.
Wishing all pnms happiness tomorrow!
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01-13-2019, 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by DistantXOcousin
I’ll use Ladybug’s roommate as an example.
She had Delta Gamma and Theta Phi Alpha.
Everyone is telling her to suicide DG because theta phi alpha is small and “insignificant”. Then the tiers are coming into play as well, the top sororities all seem to be the larger ones and the lower ones seem to be on the smaller side and so Bug’s rho gam group has all of their own ideas about this.
If it helps, I’m not sure about it either. Just repeating what Bug has told me.
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Thanks for clarifying. That's what I was imagining. These poor girls - I'm sure the Rho Gams are stressing to the girls not to suicide as I know each of my girls' groups were advised this by theirs last year and several years ago. I wish these girls could remember that what is relevant at IU isn't the same everywhere. My older daughter's house is considered "lower tier" at IU (which is crazy bc the young women in the chapter are amazing) but nationally is really strong especially in the South.
But let's be honest - I'd rather write a 100 page research paper than try and tell a 19 year old going through recruitment at IU they might be wrong.
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01-13-2019, 07:02 PM
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... I'd rather write a 100 page research paper than try and tell a 19 year old going through recruitment at IU they might be wrong.
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