How to Tell if the Conversation Was Genuine or NOT????

[midwesterng!rl2]

Everything else matched up though, I have a very high GPA, was super involved in clubs/other organizations, have a good resume, and kept up with my appearance, and don't have a bad reputation. I was just super hurt to see I got cut when I felt so good about a house and thought I had made some strong connections.

It's like how can someone tell if you'd be a good asset to their house or "team" (since we previously compared rush to job interviews) from short conversations that only really hit surface level, like "what is your major?" and "what dorm are you living in this year?". Since most of my cuts happened after round 1.

[PKT4LIFE]

Originally Posted by midwesterng!rl2

Everything else matched up though, I have a very high GPA, was super involved in clubs/other organizations, have a good resume, and kept up with my appearance, and don't have a bad reputation. I was just super hurt to see I got cut when I felt so good about a house and thought I had made some strong connections.

It's like how can someone tell if you'd be a good asset to their house or "team" (since we previously compared rush to job interviews) from short conversations that only really hit surface level, like "what is your major?" and "what dorm are you living in this year?". Since most of my cuts happened after round 1.

I have been in upper management for 20+ years. I have interviewed so many applicants for various jobs. I know the minute they walk in the room and within the first few minutes I can tell if the applicant is a good fit for the department/company. It is like a sixth sense and I am usually 99% accurate. I too had some horrific interviews and didn’t want to continue but managed to keep professional and complete the interview without showing signs of disinterest. All of the response posts are accurate. Think of it as meeting a guy, within the first few minutes of the conversation, you can tell whether or not you are interested or going to click with this guy. Don’t blame your self. We all have been rejected in life and rejection is a hard pill to swallow.

[33girl]

This is your second time rushing after getting cut everywhere. Did you do any of the things people mentioned in your other thread, like:

Did you get recs?

Did you create a (clean) social media presence?

Most importantly, did you form friendships with any sorority members outside of formal rush parties?

When you’re a rerushing sophomore, resume and GPA simply aren’t going to cut it. It’s hard to believe you want to be a part of Greek life if you’ve had a year to get to know the women in it and haven’t done so.

[midwesterng!rl2]

Originally Posted by 33girl

This is your second time rushing after getting cut everywhere. Did you do any of the things people mentioned in your other thread, like:

Did you get recs?

Did you create a (clean) social media presence?

Most importantly, did you form friendships with any sorority members outside of formal rush parties?

When you’re a rerushing sophomore, resume and GPA simply aren’t going to cut it. It’s hard to believe you want to be a part of Greek life if you’ve had a year to get to know the women in it and haven’t done so.

I unfortunately did not know where to find any opportunities to meet Greek women The girls I would talk to in class were not in sororities and no one else I know has ever done Greek life.

[33girl]

You were, to quote you, super involved in other multiple organizations, and there was not one single solitary sorority member in any of them?

There were never any sorority or fraternity philanthropies that involved the campus as a whole?

You were never in class with any sorority women?

I find these things hard to believe.

You have to put yourself out there, and it doesn’t sound like you did at all. I’m not trying to be harsh or mean, but people advised you what to do and that’s all we can do for you.

[midwesterng!rl2]

Originally Posted by 33girl

You were, to quote you, super involved in other multiple organizations, and there was not one single solitary sorority member in any of them?

There were never any sorority or fraternity philanthropies that involved the campus as a whole?

You were never in class with any sorority women?

I find these things hard to believe.

You have to put yourself out there, and it doesn’t sound like you did at all. I’m not trying to be harsh or mean, but people advised you what to do and that’s all we can do for you.

I completely understand & I really appreciate everyone's advice and input! I'm looking for as many opinions as I can get to try and make sense of my situation. I was involved in 3 clubs last year and one had about 8 members and none were in sororities. The other 2 clubs if there were women in sororities I didn't get to meet them. I can't always tell who is in a sorority or not some people rarely wear their letters, and if they do they're usually in a group with other Greek women. To me it's kind of intimidating to infiltrate their circle. I don't know where to find Greek events that are open to everyone for their philanthropy .

Going forward in your opinion, how would you go about befriending some Greek women? You can't exactly force someone to be your friend, so it's not like if I see a woman wearing letters in class I can go up to her and immediately be her best friend, unless that's exactly what I should do? Any tips or suggestions would be greatly appreciated!!

[KSUViolet06]

Originally Posted by midwesterng!rl2

I completely understand & I really appreciate everyone's advice and input! I'm looking for as many opinions as I can get to try and make sense of my situation. I was involved in 3 clubs last year and one had about 8 members and none were in sororities. The other 2 clubs if there were women in sororities I didn't get to meet them. I can't always tell who is in a sorority or not some people rarely wear their letters, and if they do they're usually in a group with other Greek women. To me it's kind of intimidating to infiltrate their circle. I don't know where to find Greek events that are open to everyone for their philanthropy .

Going forward in your opinion, how would you go about befriending some Greek women? You can't exactly force someone to be your friend, so it's not like if I see a woman wearing letters in class I can go up to her and immediately be her best friend, unless that's exactly what I should do? Any tips or suggestions would be greatly appreciated!!

QUESTION FOR CLARITY HERE.

Were you dropped by everyone? Or just some? How many chapters does your campus have? Was this your first or second recruitment? Are the chapters on your campus larger or of the smaller variety. For reference, I think we are talking small when chapters have like 40 people.

[NYCMS]

Originally Posted by KSUViolet06

QUESTION FOR CLARITY HERE.

Were you dropped by everyone? Or just some? How many chapters does your campus have? Was this your first or second recruitment? Are the chapters on your campus larger or of the smaller variety. For reference, I think we are talking small when chapters have like 40 people.

KSUViolet, she rushed last year at a Big 10 school and was cut by all houses so she re-rushed this fall. I can't tell if she had gotten recs (many people have asked, but she's not answered) and based on recent posts, she didn't get to know any sorority members over the past year so she had no connections for this year.

Here's a link to a thread she posted about whether or not to discuss her first year rushing during this year's rush:

http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...d.php?t=244101

Here's her post about rushing her freshman year and what happened:

http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...d.php?t=243578

[midwesterng!rl2]

Originally Posted by KSUViolet06

QUESTION FOR CLARITY HERE.

Were you dropped by everyone? Or just some? How many chapters does your campus have? Was this your first or second recruitment? Are the chapters on your campus larger or of the smaller variety. For reference, I think we are talking small when chapters have like 40 people.

Yes was dropped by everyone, my campus has between 12-18 chapters, this is my 2nd formal recruitment and my 3rd recruitment in general since I tried informal rush with no such luck as well last year, I think my campus has large chapters theres about 150-200 girls total in each house.

[BraveMaroon]

You are a sophomore going through for a second year, yes? That may account for some of it. Did you have a recommendation to each sorority?

Focusing on what didn't happen is a waste of energy. Focus on what your options are now. It's not necessarily that they weren't genuine connections, it's just numbers, timing, and a million things you can't control.

[33girl]

I’m not sure at this point if she means conversations that happened this year or last year.