Maybe this deserves a discussion

[MaggieXi]

A second opportunity does exist if the new member chooses not to intiate after 6 weeks (give or take) and go through recruitment the following year. And even if the NPC were to change this rule, that doesn't mean organizations would be required to issue a bid to someone who was a former initiated member of another organization.

Correct. Just because they change the rule doesn't require a bid be issued, they'd still be going through recruitment again and all the same risks apply.

For those that I know and myself, our new member period was VASTLY different than our active membership treatment.

[MaggieXi]

Originally Posted by elip...sis

Correct. Just because they change the rule doesn't require a bid be issued, they'd still be going through recruitment again and all the same risks apply.

For those that I know and myself, our new member period was VASTLY different than our active membership treatment.

New member activities and time frame vary between organizations and college campuses. This sounds more like a organizational issue or campus problem, not an NPC problem.
As I understand it, the NPC is the governing body made up of the member organizations. The member organizations propose and agree on rules such as a the one you are petitioning against. You essentially would need to get the majority of organizations to agree with you before such a change could be made.

Originally Posted by MaggieXi

New member activities and time frame vary between organizations and college campuses. This sounds more like a organizational issue or campus problem, not an NPC problem.
As I understand it, the NPC is the governing body made up of the member organizations. The member organizations propose and agree on rules such as a the one you are petitioning against. You essentially would need to get the majority of organizations to agree with you before such a change could be made.

I've tried talking to my former organization about such an idea and they directed me to the NPC. I understand that, it's not that I expect the change to happen quickly, I just want the organizations to be aware that this is something that they could benefit from. Not only would they have happier members, higher alumnae involvement, they could make money. Imagine if it was only 300 young women who transferred or dropped- they go through recruitment again and pay dues again versus no dues coming in from them at all.

[carnation]

Um, benefits? No. Here's what would go down.

New member 1: "Crap! I got my second choice and was initiated and now there's a space in the org I wanted! I'll claim harassment, quit, and join them."

New member 2: "I didn't realize there are so many dogs in my sorority. They must've been in the kitchen during recruitment. I want to join a better group!"

New member 3: "My sorority at this college isn't the best of the best. I will rush again at another college and get into the best one."

Etc.

And you think that the NPC members would rush to okay this and pick up a bunch of women like my examples?

I'm not saying that these women have to do anything other than choose to disaffiliate.

They sign an agreement barring them from disclosing ritual secrets and go about their recruitment a second and last time.

There are "bad eggs" in every organization that's just what happens. Even with going through recruitment one time.

Sometimes being a part of the wrong organization can bring out the worst in people. All it takes is being around the right people showing support to cultivate young women into the best and brightest that the Greek System demands.

I feel like it's necessary to say that disaffiliating and dropping isn't easy for someone who WANTS to be a part of a sisterhood. I feel like the women who WANT to be a part of a sisterhood would happily and respectfully take the second chance and make the best of it. It's not easy being one of the vocal people about this either.

[carnation]

NPC or really. most organizations:"Hey! Let's jump on this petition right away! Yes, let's actually listen to what a bunch of imaginary people and a few non-members have to say even though it'll create a ton of drama and maybe even a few suits if we pass it!"

[33girl]

Originally Posted by elip...sis

For those that I know and myself, our new member period was VASTLY different than our active membership treatment.

Then you need to sit down and write a letter to your former sorority that says:

Dear XYZ:

I am a former member of your sorority. I disaffiliated because the new member program did not adequately prepare me for membership. My NM period was filled with {insert fun stuff here} and nothing else. Once I was initiated, it was all {insert crap here} which I was completely shielded from as a NM.

In my opinion NM period should be less fun and more work and reality.


You'll find those sentiments all over this board. Shortened and easier pledge periods have not worked for our organizations. But that should be your focus, not changing the rules so you can get a bid from another NPC who does the same thing.