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11-10-2015, 12:20 PM
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University of Missouri Football Strike
http://www.thenation.com/article/3-l...s-resignation/
I don't know how widely this bombshell was noted, but the 69% of the Mizzou football team (closely followed by the complete support of the rest of the team and the coaching staff) refused to practice or play until the president of the university resigned. It worked! This article I think is a great manifesto for how to get things done on campus.
And if sorority women understood the power they wield, if not the same amount as the football players, still they wield A LOT of power. Tired of the fraternities controlling your social schedule? There is one damn easy way to fix that. And these guys had a lot more to risk than a social calendar.
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11-10-2015, 01:35 PM
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I'm not exactly sure what the President and Chancellor failed to do. I've read that there were a few incidents of some individuals (do we even know these were students?) yelling racial slurs at students. Then there was the fecal swastika--which could easily be as attributed to mental illness as actual racism.
At Oklahoma, when we had those SAEs singing racist songs on a bus, the President and university are now probably going to lose some lawsuits. I'm not sure what these protesters really want--administrators to overcorrect and get themselves sued?
Glad I'm not a college administrator.
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11-10-2015, 01:44 PM
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I'm not exactly sure what the President and Chancellor failed to do. I've read that there were a few incidents of some individuals (do we even know these were students?) yelling racial slurs at students. Then there was the fecal swastika--which could easily be as attributed to mental illness as actual racism.
At Oklahoma, when we had those SAEs singing racist songs on a bus, the President and university are now probably going to lose some lawsuits. I'm not sure what these protesters really want--administrators to overcorrect and get themselves sued?
Glad I'm not a college administrator.
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Have you heard about what's happening at Yale right now? It's ridiculous.
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11-10-2015, 02:01 PM
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Have you heard about what's happening at Yale right now? It's ridiculous.
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Any sort of good will these culture warriors used to have with mainstream America is quickly being expended. These children and their granola-munching communication teachers are quickly becoming the face of the civil rights movement. These classless clowns are going to set back the real civil rights movement by decades with these silly antics.
I find it absurd that these kids think they are standing for something, but can't be bothered to roam beyond the safe confines of their college campuses to take their 'courageous stands.' These people are not coming off as courageous or even victims. They're bullies who haven't even really articulated exactly what it is they want.
The Yale thing, I think has blown up way beyond that single party where a black brother allegedly told a black would-be attendee that she was being turned away because it was a white girls only party--in reality, they were turned away because they were Columbia students and the Yale Police required them to check for Yale IDs before admitting people to the party.
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11-10-2015, 02:35 PM
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Any sort of good will these culture warriors used to have with mainstream America is quickly being expended. These children and their granola-munching communication teachers are quickly becoming the face of the civil rights movement. These classless clowns are going to set back the real civil rights movement by decades with these silly antics.
I find it absurd that these kids think they are standing for something, but can't be bothered to roam beyond the safe confines of their college campuses to take their 'courageous stands.' These people are not coming off as courageous or even victims. They're bullies who haven't even really articulated exactly what it is they want.
The Yale thing, I think has blown up way beyond that single party where a black brother allegedly told a black would-be attendee that she was being turned away because it was a white girls only party--in reality, they were turned away because they were Columbia students and the Yale Police required them to check for Yale IDs before admitting people to the party.
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The protestors have articulated exactly what they want. One thing on their list is that their requests from 1969 (that's 46 years ago!!) are met. These aren't new problems or a result of an isolated incident. This has been building since the university was founded and especially since the Ferguson protests last year and there's a long history of race issues on this campus (and pretty much every campus in the country). They aren't only protesting racism as the media would have you believe, a huge part of the reason they wanted Wolfe gone was the grad student controversy. Students met with Wolfe and he was disrespectful toward their experiences and failed to care about the racism that is prominent on campus. A man who doesn't care about students shouldn't be the president. everyone protesting recognizes that removing Wolfe and Loftin isn't going to solve the problem of racism on this campus. They have plans for the future and know that it will take time and a lot of work. Getting new administration is just the first step. While removing someone doesn't change much at all (immediately), replacing them with someone who truly cares to make changes to improve the campus will make a difference.
Educate yourself before posting next time. Even if you don't agree with everything they've done you don't get to invalidate their experiences because yours aren't the same. They have faced racism and systemic oppression and that's what they're fighting for.
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11-10-2015, 02:40 PM
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Even if you don't agree with everything they've done you don't get to invalidate their experiences because yours aren't the same. They have faced racism and systemic oppression and that's what they're fighting for.
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How does my disagreement and believing they are a bunch of entitled brats "invalidate their experiences"? The language of culture warriors is fun stuff.
So here is a list of their demands:
http://www.abc17news.com/blob/view/-...of-demands.pdf
These clowns accosted the President's car in a parade, then had the nerve to issue this list of demands. That is just absurd. If you want to meet with the President of a major university, maybe during the homecoming parade isn't the best time for that. Then demanding that he "admit his white male privilege"? Way to start a helpful dialog. I'd probably quit too. Good luck to the next President.
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11-10-2015, 03:48 PM
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Any sort of good will these culture warriors used to have with mainstream America is quickly being expended. These children and their granola-munching communication teachers are quickly becoming the face of the civil rights movement. These classless clowns are going to set back the real civil rights movement by decades with these silly antics.
I find it absurd that these kids think they are standing for something, but can't be bothered to roam beyond the safe confines of their college campuses to take their 'courageous stands.' These people are not coming off as courageous or even victims. They're bullies who haven't even really articulated exactly what it is they want.
The Yale thing, I think has blown up way beyond that single party where a black brother allegedly told a black would-be attendee that she was being turned away because it was a white girls only party--in reality, they were turned away because they were Columbia students and the Yale Police required them to check for Yale IDs before admitting people to the party.
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Oh, not THAT Yale incident. Basically a professor sent an email out encouraging what I considered thought and moderation regarding Halloween costumes. The deanery had prepared some guidelines and her response to that has students spitting on her and her husband and calling for their jobs.
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11-10-2015, 04:02 PM
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Oh, not THAT Yale incident. Basically a professor sent an email out encouraging what I considered thought and moderation regarding Halloween costumes. The deanery had prepared some guidelines and her response to that has students spitting on her and her husband and calling for their jobs.
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A staff member sent out an email saying not to do racist costumes. The professor responded that the staff member's request was PC gone amok and racist costumes are cool.
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11-10-2015, 04:08 PM
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A staff member sent out an email saying not to do racist costumes. The professor responded that the staff member's request was PC gone amok and racist costumes are cool.
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...and student "activists" felt it was okay to insult the faculty members and spit on them.
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11-10-2015, 04:08 PM
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A staff member sent out an email saying not to do racist costumes. The professor responded that the staff member's request was PC gone amok and racist costumes are cool.
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You mean this email?
https://www.thefire.org/email-from-e...ween-costumes/
That is not remotely what the email talked about. This is exactly what is so goddamn ridiculous about the PC warriors on college campuses. This letter is exactly the sort of academic, honest, open dialog which should be occurring.
Instead though, some jackass students and maybe some adults at this point are trying to get this educator and her husband fired for offering a viewpoint contrary to PC dogma?
This is exactly the sort of thing which makes the PC movement look so goddamn ridiculous.
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11-10-2015, 05:15 PM
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A staff member sent out an email saying not to do racist costumes. The professor responded that the staff member's request was PC gone amok and racist costumes are cool.
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This is a flippant misrepresentation of what was actually written. Whether or not you disagree with the sentiment of the e-mail (and I can see where there are many people who would disagree with what was actually said), this is incorrect.
Her thesis was more or less summed up here:
"And the censure and prohibition [referring to the school administrator's mandate of what is appropriate and what is not] come from above, not from yourselves! Are we all okay with this transfer of power? Have we lost faith in young people’s capacity – in your capacity – to exercise self-censure, through social norming, and also in your capacity to ignore or reject things that trouble you?"
Essentially she was voicing her concerns that a) this was a "top down" demand from the institution, not a grass roots movement among the students themselves, and b) that in doing such, the administration was negating young people's abilities to determine for themselves what was appropriate, as well as have an intelligent discussion within their own community about what was troubling them (on either side of the spectrum).
In addition, she seemed to be trying to start a discourse on the specific holiday, and at what point the "fantasy" element starts to blur into appropriation. From reading this article, I got the impression that this woman would not tolerate, say, blackface, but is trying to grapple with the issue of intent for a costume (for example, mentioning if a student wanted to dress up as a character from a different race, in this case Mulan or Tiana, why do we accept that from children but not from young adults?).
I'm not sure I agree with everything she had to say, but calling for a resignation for this woman and her husband for simply articulating her viewpoint on a matter?
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11-10-2015, 02:36 PM
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Did you read the article? Never mind. Racism is made up and those black people should just suck it up and accept their status as an invisible nuisance except when making the university millions of dollars. They should know better than to think that human poop swastikas would be considered actionable by the university.
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11-10-2015, 02:42 PM
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They should know better than to think that human poop swastikas would be considered actionable by the university.
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Yeah, human poop swastikas.
It would help to have an actual alleged perpetrator for the campus to take action. Does the school need to immediately issue a policy telling students that vandalism and spreading of human feces in non-designated areas (probably both illegal already) is not okay?
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11-10-2015, 02:42 PM
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Did you read the article? Never mind. Racism is made up and those black people should just suck it up and accept their status as an invisible nuisance except when making the university millions of dollars.
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And don't put words in my mouth. I'll happily extend you the same courtesy.
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11-10-2015, 03:08 PM
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Is there an article someplace that says what all these incidents were? It looks to me like the football team is striking because of the Greek system??
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