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10-08-2015, 02:16 PM
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Last time they were kicked off campus, some alumni and brothers got together and rented an entire block of apartments at an expensive apartment complex located on Kirkwood Ave. They had an underground chapter which still had pledges and paired parties. They came back to campus stronger than ever.
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10-08-2015, 03:13 PM
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Last time they were kicked off campus, some alumni and brothers got together and rented an entire block of apartments at an expensive apartment complex located on Kirkwood Ave. They had an underground chapter which still had pledges and paired parties. They came back to campus stronger than ever.
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This is often a problem with established chapters. The alumni set so much of the tone that no matter what HQ does with visiting consultants, the chapter will do what it wants to do. That's why I'm more of a proponent of colonizations vs. recolonizations. Why go somewhere you've already failed at?
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10-08-2015, 03:40 PM
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Just saw a few photos of said incident; ugh. It looks to be an Initiation ritual.
With a diversity of men - openly gay, minorities with religious affiliation - joining fraternities now, these types of rituals need to be abandoned. It's gross, first of all, but on top of that it's offensive to anyone joining a chapter and later finding out this is part of the formal process to becoming an active member.
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10-08-2015, 04:31 PM
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This is often a problem with established chapters. The alumni set so much of the tone that no matter what HQ does with visiting consultants, the chapter will do what it wants to do. That's why I'm more of a proponent of colonizations vs. recolonizations. Why go somewhere you've already failed at?
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Perhaps the national organization needs to do a better job of choosing men for the recolonization. If 1) men are pledging what they know is an underground chapter over the recognized ones 2) the other fraternities and sororities continue to associate with the underground chapter, then something is lacking.
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10-08-2015, 04:38 PM
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Perhaps the national organization needs to do a better job of choosing men for the recolonization. If 1) men are pledging what they know is an underground chapter over the recognized ones 2) the other fraternities and sororities continue to associate with the underground chapter, then something is lacking.
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I could speculate wildly here about what happened, but since I don't like it when others do that, I'll just leave it at this.
--what an amazing, totally unexpected coincidence that people would join an ATO colony while an underground chapter had been operating and then go on to have basically all of the same problems as the original group. Truly, truly shocking.
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10-08-2015, 04:41 PM
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Yep. I think sometimes people have been in Indy so long they forget what college is really like.
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10-08-2015, 05:29 PM
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Yep. I think sometimes people have been in Indy so long they forget what college is really like.
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Interestingly, this chapter is pretty dang close to Indy, and ATO is indeed headquartered there.
(curiosity got the best of me, so I looked it up...ATO has five chapters in Indiana. I think Depauw would be the closest by a hair, then Ball State, Purdue, IU, and Rose-Hullman.)
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10-08-2015, 05:49 PM
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I read about this on cnn.com. Apparently the male in question was a 21-year-old fully initiated brother. There were two women in the house. They were exotic dancers, not students.
The national CEO is quoted as saying, "[N]o pledge was compelled to participate. Regardless, the actions are contrary to the ideals and principles of Alpha Tau Omega and are highly offensive."
When will people learn? *smh*
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