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08-19-2015, 08:29 PM
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I was so proud of the pnm I had prepped for rush a few years ago who dropped THAT HOUSE after the dance party (yes, she had an invite for the next round).
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Belle, I'm proud of the young lady you mentored. Where did she pledge? My rec girl is going through rush there right now.
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They don't need to do informal, they just need to go to NO frills like the schools around me have done. Define what decorations, music, etc. are allowed. No glitter, no beverages or food besides plain water, no flowers, no music for a dance party. It's not that hard. It saves a ton of money. It seems like, from pics I've seen, a lot of these schools haven't cut the frills one tiny bit and they seem to be getting quite frilly again. It's ridiculous. No videos, no skits, just talk to these women and get to know them, period.
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At my school it was pretty strict. We had skits and slide shows, but otherwise it was very no frills. The only flowers were our pink rose for decoration.
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08-19-2015, 09:44 PM
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I'm hoping this is tongue in cheek, because THIS would be the mother of all fluster clucks. Recruitment needs some reforming, but informal - and hey, why not informal deferred, while we're talking about ways to totally insure that the vast majority of girls don't get placed. It's only a few chapters that are the problem, and THEY are the ones who need reforming, not those who abide by the rules and get women who might not consider them without going through formal recruitment.
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I'd like to be tongue in cheek, but then people say (and I know they're being honest and wish this wasn't, but is):
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Those groups will ignore what is said about them. Because it's Texas. And the women who go through the process at UT would rather pledge a local at Sam Houston State (if there was one) than poke the bears that are the Big 3.
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Perhaps I'm having a particularly cynical day, but when the most prestigious chapters are those with the most horrible behavior, and the rest of the Greek system hasn't run them out of town on a rail, I don't know how to fix that.
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08-20-2015, 05:08 AM
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Woot - double post!
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Originally Posted by SWTXBelle
I'm hoping this is tongue in cheek, because THIS would be the mother of all fluster clucks. Recruitment needs some reforming, but informal - and hey, why not informal deferred, while we're talking about ways to totally insure that the vast majority of girls don't get placed. It's only a few chapters that are the problem, and THEY are the ones who need reforming, not those who abide by the rules and get women who might not consider them without going through formal recruitment.
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Belle - I think you pointed out on the "dream expansions" thread that Texas has a culture problem that needs to be addressed before expansion can be successful. As a total outsider looking in on this system purely through internet sources, it sounds like you hit the nail on the head regarding recruitment issues, too.
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Perhaps I'm having a particularly cynical day, but when the most prestigious chapters are those with the most horrible behavior, and the rest of the Greek system hasn't run them out of town on a rail, I don't know how to fix that.
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This, I think, is particularly problematic. The entire system (chapters and PNMs) continue to reward the bad behavior. No, not all chapters and PNMs, but enough of them to maintain the status quo.
After reading through some of the comments on GC, I read through the other site and I was amazed at the level of vitriol posted there, particularly in regards to who is participating in formal recruitment this year. I didn't even see just a couple of panhellenic posts to counter to the hate. Just, wow.
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08-20-2015, 07:06 AM
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Originally Posted by LAblondeGPhi
Woot - double post!
Belle - I think you pointed out on the "dream expansions" thread that Texas has a culture problem that needs to be addressed before expansion can be successful. As a total outsider looking in on this system purely through internet sources, it sounds like you hit the nail on the head regarding recruitment issues, too.
This, I think, is particularly problematic. The entire system (chapters and PNMs) continue to reward the bad behavior. No, not all chapters and PNMs, but enough of them to maintain the status quo.
After reading through some of the comments on GC, I read through the other site and I was amazed at the level of vitriol posted there, particularly in regards to who is participating in formal recruitment this year. I didn't even see just a couple of panhellenic posts to counter to the hate. Just, wow.
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I've always wondered why Texas sorority membership hasn't "exploded" as many similar schools have recently (SEC schools, large state schools, etc...) I'm beginning to think it's because UT doesn't want bigger involvement in sororities. Idk, I'm sure their's a better answer. But then again I've always felt you can't "question" the way Texas does it, even on this site. Maybe that's just my perception though.
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08-20-2015, 08:17 AM
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RE: UT recruitment . . .
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08-20-2015, 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by LAblondeGPhi
Belle - I think you pointed out on the "dream expansions" thread that Texas has a culture problem that needs to be addressed before expansion can be successful
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I think that was me. But honestly, the chapters at Texas are SO RUDE to the other chapters. It just amazes me (in a bad way).
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08-21-2015, 03:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Griffins&Quills
I think that was me. But honestly, the chapters at Texas are SO RUDE to the other chapters. It just amazes me (in a bad way).
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Ah! you're right. Belle mentioned the real estate problem, you mentioned the culture!
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