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04-07-2015, 07:41 AM
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Two comments.
1) If the group was kicked off two years ago for hazing, then there may still be sisters of the NPC sorority on campus, which is likely to make the NPC sorority *less* likely to want to come back on campus. (repeating more or less what clemsongirl said)
2) Of all of the councils, NPC is the *least* likely to support someone who specifically wants to bring organization XYZ onto campus. (Other end of the scale is *probably* PFA)
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04-07-2015, 07:52 AM
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There have also been times where a "bait and switch" happens and even if an interest group does the legwork of getting an NPC interested, -none of the girls actually end up in the sorority.
Unless pledge class sizes have gone up stratospherically since this chapter's closure, I don't think this group is going to come back to campus just 2 years after a hazing-induced closure.
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04-07-2015, 04:55 PM
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Is the OP's college even looking to add a sorority? That is the first question she should ask.
Also OP, rarely does recolonization work as you have suggested. Most often the national officers and local alumnae of the (re) colonizing sorority do the presentations and choose the members. Even if an interest group exists, not all of the interest group might be extended bids. There is no guarantee.
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04-07-2015, 05:02 PM
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why that particular group?
I'm curious to know what it is about that particular group that appeals to the OP given that they had an internal culture of hazing on that campus just two short years ago? For the chapter to have lost it's charter, there was either a pattern or history of that behavior OR a MAJOR incident.
Even if the campus is open to another group, why not one of the many other NPC groups rather than that particular group?
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04-07-2015, 07:01 PM
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Sounds as if it could be a case of "or what" for the OP.
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04-08-2015, 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by AdmiralPerry
I'm curious to know what it is about that particular group that appeals to the OP given that they had an internal culture of hazing on that campus just two short years ago? For the chapter to have lost it's charter, there was either a pattern or history of that behavior OR a MAJOR incident.
Even if the campus is open to another group, why not one of the many other NPC groups rather than that particular group?
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An interesting thought. She's a Junior, the group was kicked off two years ago, so that's when she was a Freshman. So it was on campus when she got to the school. I wonder if she had any contact with the Sorority when she first got to campus...
And even if the school is open to expansion, my guess is that the school would prefer a sorority that doesn't have any sisters who were (probably) forced to be early alumni still on campus.
(Can anyone think of a situation with a GLO that a school derecognized the chapter (even if the National didn't pull the charter based on Hazing and let the group back on campus in less than 4 years?)
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04-08-2015, 05:40 PM
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(Can anyone think of a situation with a GLO that a school derecognized the chapter (even if the National didn't pull the charter based on Hazing and let the group back on campus in less than 4 years?)
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You're talking about multiple different things here.
If she really did know the previous members as a freshman and this is a sort of backdoor effort (as in, once the chapter is reinstated the collegian alumnae will be invited to functions and such) I'd hope she'd be a little more discreet than to bring it up on GC where someone will invariably (as you did) think of that possibility.
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04-08-2015, 05:46 PM
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An interesting thought. She's a Junior, the group was kicked off two years ago, so that's when she was a Freshman. So it was on campus when she got to the school. I wonder if she had any contact with the Sorority when she first got to campus...
And even if the school is open to expansion, my guess is that the school would prefer a sorority that doesn't have any sisters who were (probably) forced to be early alumni still on campus.
(Can anyone think of a situation with a GLO that a school derecognized the chapter (even if the National didn't pull the charter based on Hazing and let the group back on campus in less than 4 years?)
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Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that this happened at Miami University(OH) a few years ago. Two (or three) organizations got in trouble, were suspended by the university, but came back 2-3 years later.
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04-08-2015, 07:31 PM
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Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that this happened at Miami University(OH) a few years ago. Two (or three) organizations got in trouble, were suspended by the university, but came back 2-3 years later.
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Suspended isn't closed and recolonized. I thought what happened with those groups was that they weren't allowed to participate in anything social or Panhellenic (in other words rush) but that 2 years later if the same members were there they could be active. The Miami peeps on here would know more.
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04-08-2015, 10:07 PM
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In the instances where we've have experienced suspension, it included losing the house, all recognition, etc but with an allowance to return in X number of years without going thru the expansion process - IF we wanted to. So in essence, we were kicked off campus and given first dibs on coming back in 2 years time. All members were instantly alumnae.
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04-08-2015, 10:36 PM
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So you moved your feet but did not lose your seat.  For some reason I recall the Miami suspensions LaneSig is talking about as not instantly alumni-fying the current members though.
Another important issue for the OP to be aware of is whether a group thinks the campus is worth it. A school where the chapters have 200 people and a 60% Greek population is going to be one that they'll be chomping at the bit to return to. One with 40 member chapters and a 10% Greek population, not so much.
But we have no idea if the banning the original poster spoke of came from the school or from the national headquarters. Schools don't always consider things hazing that HQs do.
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04-18-2015, 04:57 PM
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I don't know that I disagree with Ramsey. There's one NPC sorority I can think of where I don't believe in how funds are spent from the national philanthropy. I would be upset and steer clear of that group as well if I were a super smart 18 year old who knew better, that group was at my university, etc.... Since the group wasn't at my school, it wasn't an issue, and I'm pretty sure the specific partnership has changed since I became greek anyway
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