Pi Kappa Phi chapter at NC State suspended after "embarrassing, scary" book found

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by Kevin

You have to have a little perspective. If death by thousands of papercuts was going to happen, it'd have happened already.

With all due respect, Kevin, you need some perspective, too. Like you said, the world has changed. The racism that once was out in the open because it was institutionalized isn't going to be tolerated as easily by the wider society now. Neither will the "boys will be boys" excuse —which is exactly what it is. (It's an odd excuse, too, for organizations that claim to be "values-based" organizations and that want their members to be thought of as "fraternity men.")

I hope y'alls' national organizations responded to these incidents the same way mine did--with memos reminding chapters to implement programming which we already have in place.

I would hope my national org would respond with a lot more than that. Memos? That's window dressing that does little to actually address problems.

[ASTalumna06]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

With all due respect, Kevin, you need some perspective, too. Like you said, the world has changed. The racism that once was out in the open because it was institutionalized isn't going to be tolerated as easily by the wider society now. Neither will the "boys will be boys" excuse —which is exactly what it is. (It's an odd excuse, too, for organizations that claim to be "values-based" organizations and that want their members to be thought of as "fraternity men.")

I would hope my national org would respond with a lot more than that. Memos? That's window dressing that does little to actually address problems.

All of this! Memos about fraternity programming clearly aren't working. And let's not all point fingers and say, "My organization is already above the curve and doing all it needs to do. It's working for us." None of us here can say that with 100% certainty, unless you know the inner workings of every single one of your chapters.

Making racist comments isn't ok. Taking pictures of naked women without their consent and posting them online isn't ok. When are we going to stop shrugging our shoulders and saying, "Eh, they're 18.. that's what college guys do?" When are we going to hold our members to a higher standard... ya know, the ones that are in our rituals and creeds, that we advertise as being the reason to join our organizations?