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03-15-2015, 06:42 PM
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Should they be unemployable and not be able to get an education over their stupidity?
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Yes.
The only way the answer to this question would be anything but yes is if they were 5 or under.
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03-15-2015, 08:08 PM
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Yes.
The only way the answer to this question would be anything but yes is if they were 5 or under.
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I'm sorry but, I disagree that their lives should be ruined forever. I won't make excuses and call them boys when they are men but, I think it's a bit over the top to say singing a hateful chant should result in never finishing school or finding sound employment.
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03-15-2015, 09:02 PM
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I'm sorry but, I disagree that their lives should be ruined forever. I won't make excuses and call them boys when they are men but, I think it's a bit over the top to say singing a hateful chant should result in never finishing school or finding sound employment.
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It's a reality in today's world though. What you put on the Internet is out there forever. Does it suck when someone learns this the hard way? Yes. But honestly we need to find a way to get young adults to care about their online image. We tell that to PNMS all the time. Watch what you post, scrub your social media etc... And as for my personal thoughts, fuck these boys they deserve what they get.
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03-15-2015, 09:16 PM
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Exactly. These aren't the cast of the first Real World who can't believe how much it blew up. These are young men who have grown up with the Internet always in their lives. They're not just racists, they're egregiously stupid racists. I'm betting (sorry to say) there are far more people out there who would refuse to hire them or admit them to school because they're dumb and indiscreet, rather than because of their racial views.
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03-15-2015, 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by als463
I'm sorry but, I disagree that their lives should be ruined forever. I won't make excuses and call them boys when they are men but, I think it's a bit over the top to say singing a hateful chant should result in never finishing school or finding sound employment.
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Let's be honest, there are plenty of people out there to whom these guys just became great candidates for employment.
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03-16-2015, 01:11 AM
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SAE's national president has a bit of a history of knee-jerk reactions. The fact that the charter was yanked within hours of the video being posted has everything to do with that. The OU chapter has a right to appeal to the Fraternity Convention, which ironically happens this summer in the national president's home town. Having said that, from the social media posts I saw, there were plenty of actives and alumni who would be only too happy to line up for a chance to put foot to ass over at OU. The conduct on that video and that the chant was clearly an established 'thing' for that chapter are diametrically opposed to what our Fraternity stands for. Anyone who was chanting, laughing along, or otherwise supportive of that behavior should absolutely be expelled.
Whatever local victory the undergrads (and possibly their alumni) manage to get, if any at all, it will be moot unless the Convention can be convinced to restore their charter. In my opinion, without the university's support, their charter will never again see the light of day.
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03-16-2015, 09:40 AM
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Let's be honest, there are plenty of people out there to whom these guys just became great candidates for employment.
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Like who? Please elaborate.
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03-16-2015, 09:54 AM
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Like who? Please elaborate.
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There are plenty of racist people in positions to hire.
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03-17-2015, 10:07 AM
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There are plenty of racist people in positions to hire.
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Do you have any actual examples?
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