Ferguson, MO

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by KDCat

Pot doesn't make people charge cops with their head down.

It also doesn't prevent people from doing so.

To highlight how race and gender shape experiences and interactions:
There are members of the Black community who discuss (usually mainly with other Black people) the hetero-masculine demeanor of many Black men; and how this demeanor can sometimes come across as cocky and overly confident when dealing with authority figures including law enforcement. Some Black men have difficulty balancing this with what many Black men are taught about law enforcement--to stay away from law enforcement as much as possible but in an interaction to not say too much, be respectful, watch body language, etc.

It is therefore not shocking if some interactions with law enforcement turn hostile and physical for particular groups of people. I have seen certain hostilities myself and it is by the grace of God these interactions did not escalate.

[Phrozen Sands]

So we have an unarmed black kid, riddled with 12 bullets, dead and left in the middle of the street for over 4-hours. On the flip side of that coin, we have a white guy who decided to shoot up a movie theater, armed with 600 something rounds of ammunition, a shotgun, two handguns, and several semi-automatics, with orange dyed hair. He's still living. Lol! Gotta love white America.

[PiKA2001]

Originally Posted by Phrozen Sands

So we have an unarmed black kid, riddled with 12 bullets, dead and left in the middle of the street for over 4-hours. On the flip side of that coin, we have a white guy who decided to shoot up a movie theater, armed with 600 something rounds of ammunition, a shotgun, two handguns, and several semi-automatics, with orange dyed hair. He's still living. Lol! Gotta love white America.

Gingers are a rare species, us whites need to keep them alive at all costs.








Apples and oranges dude. If Holmes didn't practically give himself up to police when they showed up on scene and put up a fight he would have been killed by police IMO.

[Phrozen Sands]

Originally Posted by PiKA2001

Gingers are a rare species, us whites need to keep them alive at all costs.








Apples and oranges dude. If Holmes didn't practically give himself up to police when they showed up on scene and put up a fight he would have been killed by police IMO.

I'm glad you posted "IMO", "dude".

Originally Posted by PiKA2001

martyring of Brown is getting annoying.

And for the record, "IMO" your posts are getting annoying.

[PiKA2001]

Originally Posted by Phrozen Sands

I'm glad you posted "IMO", "dude".

And for the record, "IMO" your posts are getting annoying.

Oh I'm sorry, can't handle a differing opinion? Get the fuck off the internet then.

[Phrozen Sands]

Originally Posted by PiKA2001

Oh I'm sorry, can't handle a differing opinion? Get the fuck off the internet then.

Lol what's the matter? You pissed? I'd like to see you make me get off the internet, you piece of shit.

[PiKA2001]

Originally Posted by Phrozen Sands

Lol what's the matter? You pissed? I'd like to see you make me get off the internet, you piece of shit.

Unlike you I'm in control of my emotions so I don't get pissed off from Internet message boards but I was amused by your response. I replied to you how you replied to me. If you don't have anything of substance to say in regards to my posts then either ignor them or block me.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by Phrozen Sands

I'm glad you posted "IMO", "dude".

That shooter did give himself up to law enforcement, correct? Law enforcement would not shoot if he was no longer posing a threat to others and himself.

Law enforcement aren't supposed to shoot in retaliation or as payback. It is tempting.

[TonyB06]

Pika2001,
With the prospect of a long prison sentence at stake, did Darren Wilson have any reason at all to possibly shade his version of events?

[PiKA2001]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

That shooter did give himself up to law enforcement, correct? Law enforcement would not shoot if he was no longer posing a threat to others and himself.

Law enforcement aren't supposed to shoot in retaliation or as payback. It is tempting.

Yes, he gave himself up in the parking lot of the movie theater without incident.

Originally Posted by KDCat

No, he wasn't. Tons of people said tons of stuff, but Johnson's story was consistent from the start. He told the same story to the papers that he told at the grand jury.

I'm not taking Johnson's testimony as "gospel." I'm taking it as the truth because having read both Johnson's testimony and Wilson's testimony, and having knowledge of the local police culture, and the local community, I found Johnson more credible.

Unfortunately, as you appear to be a member of law enforcement, I understand completely why you are defending Wilson.

That's a bit unfair to say since you yourself have your own biases against local police culture. I will admit I am biased but to a very low extent. I know how the job is, therefore I'm willing to give an officer the benefit of the doubt he acted within the scope of his duties until proven otherwise. The grand jury's decision of no true bill has not given me that otherwise, so I still give him that benefit of the doubt.

Originally Posted by TonyB06

Pika2001,
With the prospect of a long prison sentence at stake, did Darren Wilson have any reason at all to possibly shade his version of events?

Are you asking if he had the motive to lie through his ass in order to get off? Of course, anyone facing possible criminal charges has that motive. I would think if he did lie in his incident report it would have been noticed during the hearings. Evidence and many other witness accounts would have conflicted with his statement of events.

[Phrozen Sands]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

That shooter did give himself up to law enforcement, correct? Law enforcement would not shoot if he was no longer posing a threat to others and himself.

Law enforcement aren't supposed to shoot in retaliation or as payback. It is tempting.

None of us were there when Wilson killed Brown. But we do know he damn near emptied his clip on an unarmed man. I'm also amazed that he wiped away evidence and packed the murder weapon. A friend of mine in Nasville is a police officer, and he said if a gun is fired, the police officer who fired the gun is never to package his own weapon. A lot of shadiness in that testimony, to me. I also don't believe Wilson is out of hot water, yet.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by Phrozen Sands

None of us were there when Wilson killed Brown. But we do know he damn near emptied his clip on an unarmed man. I'm also amazed that he wiped away evidence and packed the murder weapon. A friend of mine in Nasville is a police officer, and he said if a gun is fired, the police officer who fired the gun is never to package his own weapon. A lot of shadiness in that testimony, to me. I also don't believe Wilson is out of hot water, yet.

I think we've established that none of us were there. Your attempted comparison is flawed because there IS evidence for why that white man was apprehended with no incident. That is to what I responded.

Comparisons are unnecessary but if people insist to make comparisons to express their outrage it is best to have accurate comparisons.