Phi Kappa Psi at U of Virginia Voluntarily Suspends Activities

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by amIblue?

I've said it before, but it is not up to any university to adjudicate any felony. There should be no such thing as a sexual misconduct board because these issues need to be handled by the legal system.

Very often where there are cases of he said vs. she said and there's no physical evidence (as is often the case), guilty beyond a reasonable doubt isn't something a lot of prosecutors are confident they can achieve. These are mostly kids who have the sorts of families who can hire good criminal defense attorneys who would typically be able to beat a lot of these kinds of cases where we just have the alleged victim's word.

That's why these Title IX panels were created in the first place. Sometimes the criminal justice system doesn't work.

Now I've read about cases (one might be this one) where the perp actually admitted to the tribunal that he raped or sexually assaulted someone and he was rewarded for his candor. That is particularly absurd. If the perp admits guilt, that needs to go straight to the police.

I am still squeamish about these Title IX panels and have my doubts as to the constitutionality of how they are conducted and especially as to the qualifications of the adjudicators of those tribunals, but I understand the good intentions behind them.

[Nanners52674]

I don't like how in interview clips I've seen UVA administrators seeming to place all the blame on Greek life. Yes Greek life is a big part of the problem, but it's just as important to focus on the administration and the University system as a whole. I get a feeling of UVA passing the buck.

Sexual assaults happen at schools without Greek life. Sexual assault happens at house parties, the bar, friends apartments etc...

[candygirl200413]

Originally Posted by Nanners52674

I don't like how in interview clips I've seen UVA administrators seeming to place all the blame on Greek life. Yes Greek life is a big part of the problem, but it's just as important to focus on the administration and the University system as a whole. I get a feeling of UVA passing the buck.

Sexual assaults happen at schools without Greek life. Sexual assault happens at house parties, the bar, friends apartments etc...

thank you SO much for saying this! the amount of people on my newsfeed blaming only greek life for fostering this behavior is crazy. Yes some of it is part of the problem, but there is SO much more involved!

[exlurker]

Originally Posted by Kevin

. . . . Now I've read about cases (one might be this one) where the perp actually admitted to the tribunal that he raped or sexually assaulted someone and he was rewarded for his candor. That is particularly absurd. If the perp admits guilt, that needs to go straight to the police.

I am still squeamish about these Title IX panels and have my doubts as to the constitutionality of how they are conducted and especially as to the qualifications of the adjudicators of those tribunals, but I understand the good intentions behind them.

Kevin, is this one of the reports you read? The story deals with the "particularly absurd" rewarding of a perp who admits to what he has done:

http://www.businessweek.com/articles...e-not-expelled

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by exlurker

Kevin, is this one of the reports you read? The story deals with the "particularly absurd" rewarding of a perp who admits to what he has done:

http://www.businessweek.com/articles...e-not-expelled

That Eramo person is Exhibit A of why Title IX is a complete freakin' joke. Here's a lady who has little to no legal training who is in charge of making a quasi-judicial determination. She has no business doing that.

And the kids in these situations.. this guy just admitted whatever he admitted and it's basically up to the school to determine what if any consequences there will be.

As far as sharing information with law enforcement, a lot of what occurs in these investigations is going to fall under FERPA, so absent me not knowing something, this is kind of an unintended consequence of FERPA and should probably be looked at by Congress.