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Old 09-25-2014, 12:10 PM
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My impression is that the suspension is less about this specific incident/this specific fraternity and more to do with problems with the general fraternity culture there. According to the Student Affairs VP, over the past couple weeks alone, the university has gotten at least 15 complaints over hazing, sexual assault, and other problems--and at least 6 of those complaints are serious enough that they're being investigated by the police. To me, that does suggest a crisis that's dire enough to take drastic measures.

The NPHC and NPC groups are either not engaging in the same kinds of practices or nobody is bothering to complain about them doing so, so it's not surprising that they wouldn't be subject to the ban.
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Old 09-25-2014, 01:25 PM
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the university has gotten at least 15 complaints over hazing, sexual assault, and other problems[/URL]--and at least 6 of those complaints are serious enough that they're being investigated by the police.
We're talking about a student body of nearly 17,000 students. If less than 1:1000 on a campus is experiencing some sort of negative behavior, can we really call it an epidemic?
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Old 09-25-2014, 02:15 PM
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We're talking about a student body of nearly 17,000 students. If less than 1:1000 on a campus is experiencing some sort of negative behavior, can we really call it an epidemic?
Well, that's the point. It isn't a student body of 17,000 students that's experiencing these complaints. It's a group of fraternity members consisting of 1600, give or take a hundred (the most recent stats I found on Clemson's IFC were from 2012). Some of those complaints involve multiple fraternities. And the university says that that is substantially above the usual number of complaints they receive in a similar time span.

And in my opinion, one sexual assault allegation is serious enough for the university to take some kind of action. Three in the span of "a few weeks" is beyond the pale and the suspension of activities would be justified on that basis alone.

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And I'm guessing there's nothing new here. Let the process play out. There should be no action taken against groups who follow the rules.
According to this article, the hazing complaints that are currently being investigated/have recently been investigated involve every single one of the IFC fraternities.

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Old 10-04-2014, 01:15 PM
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Update:

Clemson will allow some fraternities to resume activities October 10, according to reports. For details and requirements that must be met for a fraternity to resume activities, see

http://www.abcnews4.com/story/267007...-resume-oct-10
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