NALFO/NPC

[DeltaBetaBaby]

Originally Posted by PersistentDST

I can say that if I caught wind of a person who went through the process was initiated into a NALPO organization and then "quit" the organization and tried to get into my organization, it would be a swift NO. I give equal respect to the NPHC, NPC and NALPO. The NALPO is not just some fringe "multicultural" council. This chapter took their time and energy and decided to pick the OP to be in their lifetime sisterhood, and she quit. I see this same conversation about PNM's not wanting to be in a chapter when the women took their time and energy to offer a bid to them and there is no sympathy in those posts. I feel none in this situation either. Same difference.

On a philosophical level, I agree. A woman who re-negged on her commitment is not an attractive prospect. On a practical level, though, the reason we don't take women who dropped out of other NPC's is because we don't want them doing it to us.

[tld221]

Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby

On a philosophical level, I agree. A woman who re-negged on her commitment is not an attractive prospect. On a practical level, though, the reason we don't take women who dropped out of other NPC's is because we don't want them doing it to us.

And so to Sen's point about seeing NPHC and NALFO orgs in te same value as NPC orgs, are you saying you can't see this scenario practically?

Because a woman dropping out of a NALFO org and coming to your org would be less offensive? You wouldn't want an NPC sister depledging for a NALFO or NPHC org in the same vein?

In other words, the disdain is only felt intracouncil, not intercoucil.

[DeltaBetaBaby]

Originally Posted by tld221

And so to Sen's point about seeing NPHC and NALFO orgs in te same value as NPC orgs, are you saying you can't see this scenario practically?

Because a woman dropping out of a NALFO org and coming to your org would be less offensive? You wouldn't want an NPC sister depledging for a NALFO or NPHC org in the same vein?

In other words, the disdain is only felt intracouncil, not intercoucil.

And I'm saying it's got nothing to do with "disdain." As soon as NALFO groups start stealing an appreciable number of women from NPC groups, it will benefit NPC groups to form an agreement with NALFO. Until then, we can argue all we want about lifetime commitments, but that's not the driving factor for the NPC UA and it won't be enough to make a rule about not pledging former members of NALFO groups.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby

And I'm saying it's got nothing to do with "disdain." As soon as NALFO groups start stealing an appreciable number of women from NPC groups, it will benefit NPC groups to form an agreement with NALFO. Until then, we can argue all we want about lifetime commitments, but that's not the driving factor for the NPC UA and it won't be enough to make a rule about not pledging former members of NALFO groups.

It has to do with disregard or apathy. That's the point.

NPHC GLOs such as Delta Sigma Theta Sorority, Inc. didn't start prohibiting women who are members of NPC sororities because of a huge amount of Black women joining predominantly white sororities. Please believe it. It stemmed from a very small but noticeable trend of Black women using NPC sororities to get to Delta over the years. This warranted a national policy that includes NPHC and NPC. Individual chapters of Delta continue to expand the national policy to include MCGLO, LGLO, AGLO, BGLO sororities based on the lifetime commitment of other GLOs at their school or in their city.

[DeltaBetaBaby]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

It has to do with disregard or apathy. That's the point.

Gotcha...I was reading the previous comments as disdain for the MEMBER who chose to abandon her commitment. You are talking about disregard for the ORGANIZATIONS themselves. Really, though, I think it's less about regard/disregard, and boils down to "follow the money."

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby

Gotcha...I was reading the previous comments as disdain for the MEMBER who chose to abandon her commitment. You are talking about disregard for the ORGANIZATIONS themselves. Really, though, I think it's less about regard/disregard, and boils down to "follow the money."

"Otherness" refers to not viewing people or organizations as having equal footing and therefore they are of no concern. The result is disregard and apathy. I have always believed, and still believe, that the NPC at the national level and (majority of) chapter levels view themselves as THE sororities. Add to that the fact that NPC sororities are predominantly white and the otherness is both organizational and racial.

Follow what money? My Sorority doesn't prohibit NPC members because we are following money. In fact, we could probably make more money if we accepted the Black women over the years who joined an NPC sorority and then tried to pledge Delta.

[Sen's Revenge]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

"Otherness" refers to not viewing people or organizations as having equal footing and therefore they are of no concern. The result is disregard and apathy. I have always believed, and still believe, that the NPC at the national level and (majority of) chapter levels view themselves as THE sororities. Add to that the fact that NPC sororities are predominantly white and the otherness is both organizational and racial.

Follow what money? My Sorority doesn't prohibit NPC members because we are following money. In fact, we could probably make more money if we accepted the Black women over the years who joined an NPC sorority and then tried to pledge Delta.

I agree with all of this.

Also, white privilege. It's in there somehow.

[DeltaBetaBaby]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

"Otherness" refers to not viewing people or organizations as having equal footing and therefore they are of no concern. The result is disregard and apathy. I have always believed, and still believe, that the NPC at the national level and (majority of) chapter levels view themselves as THE sororities. Add to that the fact that NPC sororities are predominantly white and the otherness is both organizational and racial.

Follow what money? My Sorority doesn't prohibit NPC members because we are following money. In fact, we could probably make more money if we accepted the Black women over the years who joined an NPC sorority and then tried to pledge Delta.

I don't disagree with anything you've said here.

My point was that NPC groups will take former NALFO members because the idea of lifelong commitment has very little to do with how/why NPC groups make decisions. That was where "follow the money" came in. You bring up additional reasons we see other groups as unimportant or lesser, and I think they are all true.