NALFO/NPC

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by SoCalGirl

As for the idea that NPC should apply the no dual membership rule to all groups outside of NPC, I think that would require a new NPC UA. The current one, to the best of my understanding, was created to stop member organizations from cannibalizing each other. If NPHC wants to enter into some UAs with NPC then I think that could work. Since NPHC itself has no, or few, UAs I don't see that happening any time soon.

Lane swerve for outsider question.

Would it have to be an NPC-NPHC UA? Could there just a be an NPC UA that no NPC sorority will initiate a member of an NPC, NPHC or NALFO sorority? Or could individual NPC sororities adopt their own rules on the matter, just as they do with rules about AI or initiating grad students, and just as some of the NPHC sororities have done?

/lane swerve

[33girl]

The hard part is defining "general interest sorority. " If there's the possibility for any rule in history to get super twisted, it's there.

And as far as a chemistry fraternity having a "process" I can't even with that. Don't make it social when it's not unless you want to eventually kill off the group. There's a difference between having enjoyable times with the members of an organization and acting like a social GLO when you're not one.

[OPhiAGinger]

33Girl, your post seems to dismiss the social viability of the chemistry fraternity just because it's made up of people in a specific area of study. I don't know that specific organization, but Sigma Alpha and AOE are focused on a specific group of college majors but still seem to have a strong sisterhood and social life. On a national level, they both appear to be thriving.

[SoCalGirl]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

Lane swerve for outsider question.

Would it have to be an NPC-NPHC UA? Could there just a be an NPC UA that no NPC sorority will initiate a member of an NPC, NPHC or NALFO sorority? Or could individual NPC sororities adopt their own rules on the matter, just as they do with rules about AI or initiating grad students, and just as some of the NPHC sororities have done?

/lane swerve

Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby

Yeah, I don't see why it would have to be a UA. Individual groups can make their own policies on this one; there's no reason for it to be an intra-NPC issue. And in fact, the reason for such policies is the reciprocity...it would make NO sense for the NPC to create a UA without the other councils' agreeing.

Yeah, my thought was there would need to be reciprocity between NPC and NPHC because there's no advantage otherwise. Without it what's the benefit to refusing to initiate an otherwise eligible woman?

[33girl]

Originally Posted by OPhiAGinger

33Girl, your post seems to dismiss the social viability of the chemistry fraternity just because it's made up of people in a specific area of study. I don't know that specific organization, but Sigma Alpha and AOE are focused on a specific group of college majors but still seem to have a strong sisterhood and social life. On a national level, they both appear to be thriving.

I have no problem with that if it defines itself, as Sigma Alpha, Ceres and AOE do, as a professional/social sorority or even a professional/social coed fraternity.

I have a HUGE problem with groups making themselves into something they're not and something their NATIONAL ORGANIZATION does not intend them to be. I've complained on here many times about Alpha Phi Omega chapters that bid selectively, are full members of councils that are for social Greeks, and that make an unwelcoming environment for members of social GLOs who would also like to join.

From the OP's post, this chemistry fraternity is doing the latter.

[DeltaBetaBaby]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

Lane swerve for outsider question.

Would it have to be an NPC-NPHC UA? Could there just a be an NPC UA that no NPC sorority will initiate a member of an NPC, NPHC or NALFO sorority? Or could individual NPC sororities adopt their own rules on the matter, just as they do with rules about AI or initiating grad students, and just as some of the NPHC sororities have done?

/lane swerve

Yeah, I don't see why it would have to be a UA. Individual groups can make their own policies on this one; there's no reason for it to be an intra-NPC issue. And in fact, the reason for such policies is the reciprocity...it would make NO sense for the NPC to create a UA without the other councils' agreeing.