University of Texas Recruitment 2014

[BadCat25]

All you Greek Chaters are wasting your time expressing your outrage over the dance party on this website. Contact someone who can actually do something about it, like the president of UT, and don't claim he is powerless to stop it.
William Powers, JR.
president@po.utexas.edu

[SWTXBelle]

And what exactly do you think he personally has the power to do about it? If college presidents could do what they wanted about rogue chapters it would be a FAR different Greek scene on MANY campuses. A PNM could file a report alleging emotional injury with the Office of the Dean of Students (http://deanofstudents.utexas.edu/complaint.php) The Dean of Students would be more likely able to have some influence, but against all those deep-pocketed alumnae and their husbands? Naw. It's going to take their IHQ stepping in to do anything.

[ChioLu]

Originally Posted by SWTXBelle

And what exactly do you think he personally has the power to do about it? If college presidents could do what they wanted about rogue chapters it would be a FAR different Greek scene on MANY campuses. A PNM could file a report alleging emotional injury with the Office of the Dean of Students (http://deanofstudents.utexas.edu/complaint.php) The Dean of Students would be more likely able to have some influence, but against all those deep-pocketed alumnae and their husbands? Naw. It's going to take their IHQ stepping in to do anything.

Or NPC involvement.
Actually, this can be considered hazing -- and it's not hazing your members, but the women you are making sure will NOT be your members.

[BadCat25]

You all seem to forget that GLOs are guests of the university. I would hate to be the President of the chapter and be called into the UT Presidents office and be told that the actions of the chapter were bringing the reputation of UT into disrepute and unless it was stopped there would be (unmentioned) consequences.

[SWTXBelle]

We are very much aware of the relationship between GLOs and the University. Many of us here are also very much aware of how the Greek system at UT works, and what the president can and cannot threaten. Basically, the scenario you have laid out is NOT how it works.

But I'll tell you what - prove me wrong. Write the president, and let me know how that goes.

[trymeplease]

My daughter happily pledged a sorority at UT! We are from out of state, and she ended up at the sorority where she knew an active member from her HS (and met many of her friends from the sorority over time). Connections are key at UT - just about everyone at UT graduated near the top of their class, so hard to distinguish yourself there. For future PNM's, get your recs, and try to meet current sorority members ahead of time (whether that is through friends of friends, etc.). Also my daughter has 2 sophomore friends who successfully pledged - they made lots of Greek friends last year, and that really appeared to have helped.

Thank you for all the advice here on GC!

[AOII Angel]

You also presume that the University President would give a sh*t.

[BadCat25]

"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing"
Edmund Burke

[Nanners52674]

Originally Posted by BadCat25

"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing"
Edmund Burke

Are you kidding me? It's sorority recruitment, a VOLUNTARY event. No one is forced to go, no is forced to say in the house during dance party. I'd be beyond bothered that my university's president is so involved in Greek affairs both as a member. But also as an alum, the president has far more important things to worry about.

[pmdal]

KD took 66

[33girl]

Originally Posted by Nanners52674

Are you kidding me? It's sorority recruitment, a VOLUNTARY event. No one is forced to go, no is forced to say in the house during dance party. I'd be beyond bothered that my university's president is so involved in Greek affairs both as a member. But also as an alum, the president has far more important things to worry about.

And again - slippery slope. If he sticks his nose in this, it sets a precedent for him to stick his nose in everything. Not to mention, harassment by the president might make this chapter into martyrs for "free expression" - which is the LAST thing anyone wants to happen.

[PinkSkyAtNight]

Here is the organization's statement on hazing, you can determine if separating PNMs and talking to some and not others creates an environment of superiority/inferiority:

Hazing is prohibited.

Hazing is any action taken or situation created, organized or conducted regardless of intent by any new and/or initiated member of XYZ or their agent(s) for any other individual where participation may be voluntary, forced or coerced that occurs, regardless of location, that has the potential to cause or actually results in emotional, mental or physical discomfort; illness; injury; consumption of or opportunity to consume alcohol; that may create a superior/inferior relationship between the participants; and/or may reflect unfavorably upon the individuals, chapter or Fraternity. Permission or approval by a person being hazed is not a defense.

Any chapter or individual member whose actions or attitudes are not in accord with the Fraternity’s policy against hazing will be subject to disciplinary action by the chapter and/or by Grand Council. Acts of hazing may result in civil and criminal liability on the part of those individuals engaged in such activities.

Chapters and members must follow all applicable federal, state, local and province laws and university policies regarding hazing.

The elimination of hazing is the responsibility of each collegiate and alumna member of XYZ.

[SWTXBelle]

Originally Posted by BadCat25

"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing"
Edmund Burke

I look forward to learning the response from the president to your letter.

[AnchorAlum]

Originally Posted by AOII Angel

You also presume that the University President would give a sh*t.

Especially since Bill Powers is on his way out the door.

[DeltaBetaBaby]

Here's the problem: that definition of hazing covers virtually EVERYTHING. You can't separate PNM's by room because some might feel bad? Okay. Now you can't have the president say hello to some PNM's and not others. Now you can't make PNM's sit in the back row during the skit. Now you can't rank PNM's on your bid list.