Ferguson, MO

[DeltaBetaBaby]

No, he still is. A minor shoplifting incident does not make his life any less valuable, at least to those of us who don't condone blatant racism.

Also, note in the video that he is wearing different shoes.

[ASTalumna06]

Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby

No, he still is. A minor shoplifting incident does not make his life any less valuable, at least to those of us who don't condone blatant racism.

I think his point was more so that Brown wasn't completely innocent, and there may have been a justifiable reason why the cop felt he had to shoot. There still aren't enough details to make that determination yet. All we know is that there was a robbery and Brown was shot and killed. Everything in between is still unclear.

Also, note in the video that he is wearing different shoes.

Everyone keeps mentioning his shoes. What am I missing? Is there video or a picture that I haven't seen?

[maconmagnolia]

Originally Posted by ASTalumna06

I think his point was more so that Brown wasn't completely innocent, and there may have been a justifiable reason why the cop felt he had to shoot. There still aren't enough details to make that determination yet. All we know is that there was a robbery and Brown was shot and killed. Everything in between is still unclear.

I agree. Also, if he shoplifted, and was caught by the police shortly thereafter.. there could have been altercation that occurred between Brown and the police officer that made the officer feel he had to shoot. However, I will wait until we have all of the facts laid out before I make an opinion on the incident. We have no idea yet what all of the facts are and I find it to be absolute ludicrous that people are automatically jumping to the conclusion that this cop was a racist who shot Brown simply because he was a black kid.

[Sen's Revenge]

Originally Posted by maconmagnolia

I agree. Also, if he shoplifted, and was caught by the police shortly thereafter.. there could have been altercation that occurred between Brown and the police officer that made the officer feel he had to shoot. However, I will wait until we have all of the facts laid out before I make an opinion on the incident. We have no idea yet what all of the facts are and I find it to be absolute ludicrous that people are automatically jumping to the conclusion that this cop was a racist who shot Brown simply because he was a black kid.

Right, because nobody has ever had racist encounters with police before that would lead them to these ludicrous conclusions.

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by ASTalumna06

I think his point was more so that Brown wasn't completely innocent, and there may have been a justifiable reason why the cop felt he had to shoot. There still aren't enough details to make that determination yet. All we know is that there was a robbery and Brown was shot and killed. Everything in between is still unclear.

Everyone keeps mentioning his shoes. What am I missing? Is there video or a picture that I haven't seen?

And yeah, there are eyewitnesses, but eyewitness testimony is about as unreliable as it gets.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ael-Brown.html

The above shows the video as well as the lifeless body. Same clothing.

So is it justifiable to execute someone for robbery? No.

Is it justifiable to execute someone who resists being detained? I can definitely see a lot of scenarios where that answer could be yes. A person of Brown's size could easily overpower the officer and seriously injure or kill him and when there was a struggle with police who were clearly trying to arrest him, that typically doesn't end well for the would-be arrestee.

As i said, sure there are eyewitnesses. It'll be interesting to see how the investigation progresses. It's a little too early for folks to start burning down their own homes and looting stores though.

[KAPPAcino]

Originally Posted by Kevin

And yeah, there are eyewitnesses, but eyewitness testimony is about as unreliable as it gets.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ael-Brown.html

The above shows the video as well as the lifeless body. Same clothing.

So is it justifiable to execute someone for robbery? No.

Is it justifiable to execute someone who resists being detained? I can definitely see a lot of scenarios where that answer could be yes. A person of Brown's size could easily overpower the officer and seriously injure or kill him and when there was a struggle with police who were clearly trying to arrest him, that typically doesn't end well for the would-be arrestee.

As i said, sure there are eyewitnesses. It'll be interesting to see how the investigation progresses. It's a little too early for folks to start burning down their own homes and looting stores though.

Looks like the same guy to me. Same build, same hat, same shoes, same shirt and shorts.